genetic engineering.

Discussion in 'Advanced Growing Techniques' started by aggwidow, Jan 6, 2009.

  1. so to speed up the growth cycle of wheat scientists used genetic recombination in order to gain the desired results. my question is would it be possible to use genetic recombination in order to increase the: growing cycle, harvest, and or potency of marijuana. i mean its possible. but someone with the right equipment would have to do it. and it is def illegal.

    but what are your thoughts on it
     
  2. bump bump
     
  3. breeding is a form of genetic engineering, people have been using it to speed up harvest, increase potency ect for a long time.

    As far as actual gene splicing and recombinating using hi tech equipment and all that super dna science...Im sure it can be done..look to places where it is completely legal for it to be done first...has it been done already? I dont think so but...
     

  4. the term for this in science is selective breeding. but this recombinant gene use could be used for sure i was just wondering if anyone has heard anything about this. im sure there are other herb loving biologists
     
  5. #5 Zonyc, Jan 7, 2009
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    Well using traditional recombination (homologous recombination) requires significant genetic variability, which cannabis may or may not have already. It's almost certain that illegitimate recombination has occurred probably numerous times in the history of cannabis. Ionizing radiation can be used to increase the variability to produce random genetic changes which, with luck could produce more desirable traits. I think some of the cannabis genome would have to be mapped in order for gene targeting. Homologous recombination would be a simple matter then. Of course if the genome were mapped then DNA transfer would be the best bet.

    I should ask my genetics prof if he'd be cool with experimenting on a cannabis specimen :D
     

  6. please do

    but wouldnt radiation have the same chance at producing adverse effects?
     
  7. There is always that possibility as the mutation would be uncontrolled and random, but just like evolution, every now and then you will have a superior specimen which can be built upon using modern genetic advances. It's undoubtedly possible, but the illicit nature of cannabis makes this next to impossible to conduct in a laboratory with the required equipment.

    Just like hops, (which are in the same family as cannabis (Cannabaceae)) are modified for increased yield etc. cannabis just needs open availability. I have no doubt that in the future, when cannabis is made legal we will see short, quick flowering strains that are able to produce 4+ ounces under a tiny cfl.
     
  8. Listen to Zonyc, he knows his smart stuff. And if you don't listen or if you talk back he's liable to literarily beat you down. Lol.
     

  9. baha no no i'm following everything he's saying. and i think it would be cool seeing as how im a biology student. it would just need to be tested repeatedly until the desired results are found
     
  10. you guys are all stupid, wtf are you talking about with this stupid shit, let it happen if it happens, dont fuck wit marry, yall ell end up calling her Margret.
     
  11. i have already seen a tone of new fast growing potent "designer" strains in california. if marijuana becomes a widely excepted form of medical treatment and is researched much more then there is no doubt that there will be many specialty strains meant for all sorts of conditions.

    a main reason why cannabis genetic will not be fully explored is due to one of the main reasons it was illegalized to begin with, the nylon industry. cannabis could be genetically altered in minor ways to produce much stronger fibers then it already dose but in order to get to the point that nylon has it would take more money and time that we have already wasted on a man made product.

    its a shame that it is put down so much. cannabis could be used for so many things and could be easily be improved using even basic selection processes much less the results we could get from high tech genetic engineering. if only one company invested the time any money to maximize the potential of the plant we could have medicine, clean burning natural fuel, and affordable strong natural fibers.
     
  12. I'm for it.
     
  13. #13 ricard0, Jan 10, 2009
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    Ya, i made the mistake of throwing down the gauntlet and challenging Zonyc's posts to a duel. :hide:

    And although my aim was true and with my trusty six-gun loaded for big game, i wound up with scientifically jacketed slug in my shoulder fired from his Colt .45 Petri-Maker, whereas my non-sensical slug only grazed his cheek and mortally wounded his second. The ref called it a draw. LMAO. He knows what i mean. ;)

    After the smoke <---(ha ha, smoke ref,) had cleared Zonyc not only fetched the doc to patch me up, he even offered to buy the first round down at the 'ol waterin' hole. Now, seein' as how i happen to be a right honorable gent, and on account of being shot, i felt obliged to accept.

    Legend has it that the Masked Biologist still rides the grasslands with his faithful side-kick Ganjo in search of those wanted for posting or otherwise distributing scientifically inaccurate cannabis related information. Keeping the Pot-Ponderosa safe once again from those hemp-rustlers. If you're stoned enough you might hear him call out....... 'Hi-yo, Silver-Haze, away!':wave:

    This topic is a few rungs above my intellectual pay grade, but if you're talking about the nuts and bolts of gene manipulation, Zonyc's the first one that comes to my mind. Not many folk i know that can talk circles around me, but i'll grant him that title for now. Once my wound's healed, we may have another go. LOL.

    I'll keep tuned in case you guys start crocheting chromosomes. ;)
     
  14. #14 ricard0, Jan 10, 2009
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    Was that supposed to be funny? :confused:

    The insipidly vulgar ignorance with which you remark is exceeded only by your lack of knowledge about which you remark. :p

    It's not nice to crap on threads with titles you have trouble wrapping your shrunken head around. :mad:

    Nor is it nice to label a group of members, with considerably more rep than you, as "stupid"
    Those kinds of comments won't get you anywhere but burned here man. Cool you heals and try participating instead of trolling.

    Contribute to the topic or go peddle your 8th grade education somewhere it'll have company. :devious:
     
  15. Delighful, I was hoping some one would get on the side of the going culture and call that vulgure, Here let me be more explanatory, Insted of...
    "you guys are all stupid, wtf are you talking about with this stupid shit, let it happen if it happens, dont fuck wit marry, yall ell end up calling her Margret."... and taking it word for word as vulgarity, peep it like...
    "you guys are talking about something that, being as it has possible unforeseeable negative affects, you should not attempt to mess with , instead you should let the chips fall where they may, and not try to control mother nature. Also, if you mess with her, Mary, you might just end up calling her Margret "

    Its gone though the vulgarity test 8 times, WOW!, and theres not a lick of it there, But yet I'm some how am saying the same funking shit, wow thats a funking no brainier, your head may not be as far up your ass as I think it is, but you head is sure as fuck getting a little to serious about your crazy fantasy's. Take a break form your ass hole and get a breath of fresh air, and then maybe you can see that vulgarity is 8 ur on 4+4 and im on 7+1, my shit just look different ur funk tard.
     
  16. Now to shut you up, my contribution is in Marys well being. Get it rite. If you couldn't understand that the above two times I said something about this topic.
     
  17. Lol, you're something else guy. I'm not sure if you realize, but most of the food you eat, most of the sweeteners in drinks you consume are genetically modified. Let me break it down for you:

    Soybeans: 89% of soybeans in the US are genetically modified. A gene from bacteria was taken and used in soybeans. This is for herbicide resistance

    Corn: 60% of corn in the US is genetically modified. A new gene was added to the genome to provide a resistance to pesticides. This is so farmers can use more pesticides on corn without harming it.

    Cotton: 83% in the US is genetically modified. The T-shirt you're wearing is probably made from genetically altered cotton. A new gene was added to the genome for pest resistance.

    Tomatoes, potatoes, canola, sugar cane, sweet corn, rice are all genetically modified in some way. Rice and corn are the biggies here. Modifications to the genome are not only important, but necessary. By 2030, rice and corn will yield double of what they do now, use less land, less energy, and less water to produce this yield.

    Modifying cannabis is inevitable, in fact, its already happened - 10 years ago a biology professor produced oranges which produced THC in their fruit. There will be more to come, so stow away your ignorance and do some research.
     

  18. I won't dignify either of your poor excuses for rebuttals with anything but a --> :rolleyes:
     
  19. #19 Reinstate Mary, Jan 10, 2009
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    Your offer a great point, I love that you have these facts to say something, by no means am i looking for an argument, but what else do you have to say because I know what you are saying to me. I know that corn started out as a completely different looking plant altogether. I see that you say cannabis has been alter already, but you say next that it was for oranges to produce thc, I don't see how thats exactly whats being talked about here. I know that apples have also gone through the same battery of experiments with the same results. I know that there are potatos that have been altered to make it so that they make a pesticide, and believe me when i say this, I will not be seeking those out intentionally. I agree that it may be inevitable thst this happens and I'm not saying that engineering cannabis is not going to ever happen, I'm saying that it may not be the best idea to do so seeing as how the effects are unknown. I'd rather see cannabis get better through cross breading, and let it get it self better. I know it would be great for us to have marijuana that is better in ways comparing to your talk of Commercial products by 2030, but I think that it would be more beneficial for the plant to do it in a more natural manner. you dig what I'm saying.

    If not please holla at me. if u dont agree, again, not lookin for an argument.

    And this would be the third time saying the same thing, just for the count, ya dig me.
     
  20. Thats because your the man.
     

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