[quote name='BlazinX1']Perhaps, but I generally don't consider that addiction. Sure it has some addictive properties but I wouldn't consider weed an addictive drug that leads to withdrawals.[/quote]
The universe doesn't give 2 shits what you think when it comes to objective reality. Things are or aren't, so consideration as a conclusion is useless.
[quote]It had been believed that cannabis use did not lead to tolerance and that there was no withdrawal syndrome. However, since the mid-1970s, these views have been challenged by many experimental and observational studies[/quote]Psychiatric effects of cannabis
BJ Psych is an accepted mainstream source for graduate-level college classes, so I figure it will do. There are a million others though.
[quote]For example if you smoke alot of weed all the time, and are dry for a day you're not going to withdraw, atleast I've never met anyone like that.[/quote]
Depending on ratio of the density between the CB1 and CB2 receptors you are actually "high" as far as your body is concerned for as long as 48 hours (21 hour average with a 3.2 hour standard deviation). The more you smoke the greater the discrepancy between the densities. This lag time is directly proportional to the withdrawal period in most cases.
[quote]However, as you and I both know from doing heroin, what happens maybe a day tops after you stop doing heroin? Sure if you do dope once you won't get addicted, you smoke once you won't get addicted. But I know people who smoke every day they can and if they can't for a day or two or a week they are fine. People on here take tolerance breaks all the time, or stop to pass drug tests, but how many people take tolerance breaks from heroin after using daily, none because they are addicted. [/quote]
Never shot up so I can't speak to that. Done mountains of glass, and it's consistent with what you're saying. That being said I dip almost constantly now (it's amazing when your high), and I've quit for a few days without a problem.
[quote]Maybe there are drugs that are only mentally addictive and not physicall such as marijuana, however, a problem with heroin addicts is they crave the drug so much they need to take drugs such as suboxen and methadone yet there are no drugs to ease marijuana withdrawal, because it typically doesn't exist.[quote]
Don't know if you know this but your brain is a part of your body. It's more of a part of your body then most parts of your body in fact! You know what the pharmacological mechanism of action for suboxen is? It binds to the kappa and mu opioid receptors, and to a lesser extent ORL1 and sigma. In kappa and mu it's a partial agonist, so it will bind to the receptor site and physically block the opioids from acting.
Suboxen is supposed to be incredibly effective. Because most (not ALL but the majority) of the withdrawal symptoms from most drugs start at the brain. Specifically it starts with receptor density. Yet those issues cause physiological issues of medical significance. It's the exact same case with bud.
By the way there is a drug awaiting FDA approval for marijuana withdrawal (it already has other uses) called Lofexidine. In addition to that I've personally been prescribed clonazepem (10mg I think only 5 of them) for marijuana withdrawals. Court-ordered drug counseling can eat a testicle.
There are a bunch of other drugs that have the "off-label" use of treating marijuana withdrawal.
[quote]So although it may be addictive, the majority of people do not have any withdrawal symptoms from marijuana.[/quote] You're right the majority do not have addiction issues or withdrawal issues. The addiction incidence is supposedly 2.3% (probably significantly higher) *among users* which isn't very high, but it definitely exist. We're talking about the disease model of addiction in those cases as a paradigm, so it's extremely addictive in those cases.
You probably think marijuana has never hurt anybody. It totally freaking hasn't...directly. Did you know one of the major withdrawal symptoms is depression? Obviously it's not as bad as the depression from heroine, glass, coke, w/e, but it's there.
The other one is anxiety and nervous energy. The problem is that some people are more sensitive (in a clinically insignificant way in *any* other context) to being "wound up." In these people it can cause panic attacks. Regardless of what you think when you hear panic attack I can assure they are serious. Quite a few people have had panic attacks behind the wheel, and been smeared across semi trucks. It's borderline-impossible to nail down THC withdrawal for co-morbidity or cause because it's exactly that....withdrawal...a lack of.
The worst part of it is also the worst part of major depressive disorder...suicide. I have a friend I was extremely close to who had some very bad things happen in her life at one point. Due to all these bad things she decided that after 2 and a half years it was a good time to quit pot. They found her in her bathtub with wrists cut open. It could have been other things, but she was talking about how shitty the withdrawal symptoms were making her feel.
I'm not saying don't do pot. I have a fucking blunt in my mouth as I'm typing this! You have to understand the idea that there is "no physical withdrawal" and "no possibility for addiction" is really, really dangerous with some people. They see it as a ticket to go wild, and say fuck it to all limits. Eventually you're burning an ounce of hydro every couple days, and it IS affecting your functioning as a human.
Weed is amazing, but it's like anything else. You have to exhibit at least a little self control. I had a pretty significant problem with it (among other things) at one point, and it can start to interfere. If you smoke a few times a day during down time that's one thing. You can't smoke all freaking day and function as a person properly though.
Just my 2 cents sorry to bust balls, but it holds personal significance. Enough for me to register here, and type up this long ass post.