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Atheism in the 20th Century

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  • Apr 03 2007 03:31 PM
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Posted 03 April 2007 - 03:31 PM

Why a strong religious conviction is unnecessary to live a fulfilling and meaningful life in the eyes of society and civilization.

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Posted 03 April 2007 - 04:26 PM

DAMMMN! that was intense, i enjoyed the music alot too. Good shit homie. keep it up. you contribute so much to the livelihood of this forum

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Posted 03 April 2007 - 05:11 PM

Very interesting video. I myself am agnostic and It's disturbing how between religion and government mankind is controlled down to the tee.

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Posted 03 April 2007 - 05:12 PM

I hate that quote from Bush Sr.

One nation under god? Only since 1954.

America was founded on the basis of secular society and maintains itself as one today... officially.

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Posted 03 April 2007 - 05:34 PM

I do find it a bit strange that the US, with it's constitutional separation of church and state (at least in theory) is several orders of magnitude more religious than any western-european country that have/had constitutional state sponsored religion.

Much of europe is now so secularized that even the state-churches are coming tumbling down. The seats are simply just empty. The rise of muslim immigration have even helped put the spotlight on how irrational religion really is. Unfortunately, many places this have spurred quite a few racist morons to speak up and confirm their boundless idiocy.

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Posted 03 April 2007 - 06:02 PM

first of all, that statement by bush sr. is unbelievable, i'm honestly appalled.

how can you say that a group with a similar belief like atheism shouldn't be called citizens?


i'm seriously speechless.


aside from the idiotic dynasty we have on our hands, GREAT MOVIE!!!

i thoroughly enjoyed it from start to finish.


thanks RM

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Posted 03 April 2007 - 06:33 PM

BAD RELIGION LYRICS

"Come Join Us"

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so you say you gotta know why the world goes 'round
and you can't find the truth in the things you've found
and you're scared shitless 'cuz evil abounds
come and join us

well I heard you were looking for a place to fit in
full of adherent people with the same objective
a family to cling to and call brethren
come and join us

all we want to do is change your mind
all you need to do is close your eyes

so come and join us
come and join us
come and join us

don't you see the trouble that most people are in
and that they just want you for their own advantage
but I swear to you we're different from all of them
come and join us
I can tell you are lookin' for a way to live
where truth is determined by consensus
full of codified arbitrary directives
come and join us
all we want to have is your small mind
turn it into one of our own kind
you can go through life adrift and alone
desperate, desolate, on your own
but we're lookin' for a few more stalwart clones
so come and join us
come and join us
come and join us

we've got spite and dedication as a vehement brew
the world hates us, well we hate them too
but you're exempted of course if you
come and join us
independent, self-contented, revolutionary
intellectual, brave, strong and scholarly
if you're not one of them, you're us already so
come and join us


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Posted 17 June 2007 - 06:29 PM

yea man

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Posted 17 June 2007 - 07:06 PM

The final quote says it all.

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Posted 17 June 2007 - 10:37 PM

Charles Schultz was atheist? Damn... haha I never knew that

Thats funny because I bet that would be in the top 5, if not the first, for comics expounding Chrisitan virtues.

(I dont think I used expouding correctly, at all. I dont know what word I mean haha)

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Posted 17 June 2007 - 11:02 PM

Thank you R_M.

"God for you is where you sweep away all the mysteries of the world, all the challenges to our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off and say God did it."
-sagan

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Posted 18 June 2007 - 01:03 AM

A bit of propaganda, but interesting none the less. I'm sure since the population numbers of atheists included agnostics that they took up a very large chunk. Also, are you sure all of the people towards the end were atheists? I can't remember all ofem now, but it struck me while watching that some of the celebrities wouldn't be atheist; but I dunno.

I really liked that Sagan quote at the end. And I can't believe Bush Sr. would be such a dick either. You know many Evangelists don't want a separation of church and state?

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Posted 18 June 2007 - 01:42 AM

R_M, great lyric choice by Bad Religion. I was just listening to the album Against the Grain....amazing stuff.

Faith In God

It's all right to have faith in god
But when you bend to their rules and their fucking lies
That's when I start to have pity on you.

You're living on a mound of dirt,
But you can't explain your reason for existence
So you blame it on god.

So much hatred in this world and you can't decide
Who's pulling the strings
So you figure it's god.

Your whole life foreshadows death
And you finally realize you don't want to die alone
So you'll always have god.

It's all right to have faith in god
But when you bend to their rules and their fucking lies
That's when I start to have pity on you.

It's all right to have faith in god
But when you bend to their rules and their fucking lies
That's when I start to have pity on you.

There's people in the world today
Who say they're Jewish, Christian and such,
They're all ignorant fools.

They'll tell you you can't have your own way
unless you pay money and dedicate your life
Or you'll be damned in hell.

Don't be feeble like all of them,
You have your own brain full of thoughts and choices,
So use it don't let them use you.

It's all right to have faith in god
But when you bend to their rules and their fucking lies
That's when I start to have pity on you.

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Posted 18 June 2007 - 01:50 AM

Haha I totally forgot even making this thread.

I watched the video; it blew my mind. Thank goodness for the haze of drugs; it lets you enjoy the good stuff twice! :P




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