Hillary Clinton Is Stepping Up Her Smear Campaign Against Bernie, Plays sexism and race card

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  1. http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2015/11/hillary_clinton_keeps_smearing_bernie_sanders_as_a_sexist_now_she_is_reaching.html


    "On Oct. 23, Hillary Clinton
    opened a new front against Sen. Bernie Sanders: She framed him as a
    sexist. Clinton took a phrase Sanders had routinely used
    in talking about gun violence-that “shouting” wouldn't solve the
    problem-and suggested that he had aimed it at her because “when women
    talk, some people think we're shouting.












    Several journalists called out
    Clinton for this smear. But she refuses to withdraw it. Instead, her
    campaign officials and supporters have escalated the attack. And now,
    Clinton is adding a new dimension to the controversy: race.














    Some feminists applauded Clinton's initial zinger. “Hillary Baits Bernie Beautifully,” said a headline in Salon. Another article accused Sanders of “old-fashioned tone policing and dogwhistling about women's shrillness.”
    On Oct. 27, Stephanie Schriock, the president of Emily's List, conceded
    that Sanders hadn't singled out Clinton. But Schriock insisted
    that Sanders “was referring to a lot of folks who have been very
    adamant about [guns] and a lot of women who have been leading the fight
    on gun violence across the country. And I do think that is
    disrespectful.”




    The next day, Clinton sat down for an interview in New Hampshire. Josh McElveen of WMUR asked her about Sanders:
    “Do you believe that he's attacking you based solely on your gender?”
    Clinton replied: “When I heard him say that people should stop shouting
    about guns, I didn't think I was shouting. I thought I was making a very
    strong case. … And I'm not going to be silenced.” McElveen followed up:
    “But as far as the implication that Bernie Sanders is sexist-you
    wouldn't go that far?” Clinton shrugged, smiled, and sidestepped the
    question. “I said what I had to say about it,” she concluded.



    Now Hillary Clinton is doing to Sanders what Bill Clinton once said was done to her.



    That day, Bloomberg Politics published an article in which Sanders' campaign manager, Jeff Weaver, joked that Clinton would “make a great vice president” for Sanders. Weaver offered to interview her for the job. As Jonathan Chait has pointed out, that's a standard put-down among candidates: Clinton said the same thing about Barack Obama in 2008. But when Weaver tried it on Clinton, her supporters erupted. Christine Quinn, a Clinton backer, accused the Sanders campaign of sexism.
    Quinn pointed at Sanders himself: “I'm stunned that a man like Bernie
    Sanders, who has clearly committed his life to making the country a
    better place, would get sucked into this very dangerous rhetoric, which
    perpetuates sexist and misogynistic stereotypes.”


    Clinton used her initial sound bite-“when women talk, some people
    think we're shouting”-in at least six places. She posted it on Twitter, Facebook, and her campaign website. She also delivered it in three speeches: in Washington, D.C., and Alexandria, Virginia, on Oct. 23, and in Des Moines, Iowa,
    on Oct. 24. After that, I didn't hear it, except in her interview in
    New Hampshire. I thought she might be done with it. But then, on Friday,
    she raised a new issue.



    Clinton was in Charleston, South Carolina, addressing the local NAACP. She spoke against a tragic background: the massacre of nine black people in a Charleston church by a white racist. Naturally, she talked about guns. But she added a new line:
    “There are some who say that this [gun violence] is an urban problem.
    Sometimes what they mean by that is: It's a black problem. But it's not.
    It's not black, it's not urban. It's a deep, profound challenge to who
    we are.”


    The idea that urban is code for black has been around a long time. It's often true. And it's not necessarily derogatory: In 1920, the National League on Urban Conditions Among Negroes shortened its name to the National Urban League.
    But why would Clinton suddenly bring up, in a damning tone, people who
    call guns an urban problem? Who was she talking about? It can't be the
    Republican presidential candidates: They haven't disagreed enough to
    debate the issue at that level of granularity. The only recent forum in
    which guns have been discussed as an urban concern is the forum that
    inspired Clinton's initial accusation of sexism: the Oct. 13 Democratic debate in Las Vegas. Pull up the transcript of that debate, search for “urban,” and you'll see whom Clinton is talking about: Sanders.








    In fact, it's from the same moments of the debate that Clinton had
    already seized on. In the debate, Sanders began by saying, “As a senator
    from a rural state, what I can tell Secretary Clinton [is] that all the
    shouting in the world is not going to do what I would hope all of us
    want.” A couple of minutes later, Sanders told former Maryland Gov.
    Martin O'Malley: “We can raise our voices, but I come from a rural
    state, and the views on gun control in rural states are different than
    in urban states, whether we like it or not.” O'Malley insisted that the
    issue was “not about rural and urban.” Sanders replied: “It's exactly
    about rural.” Only one other candidate used the word “urban” during the
    debate: former Virginia Sen. Jim Webb. A week later, on Oct. 20, Webb quit the campaign.
    So when Clinton, on Friday, spoke scathingly of people who call guns an
    “urban problem” but mean it's a “black problem,” it's obvious to whom
    she was referring.














    This line of attack is rich in irony. When Clinton ran for president in 2008, she explicitly used race against Obama. She told USA Today
    that she should be the Democratic nominee because “I have a much
    broader base to build a winning coalition on.” Clinton cited an article
    that, in her words, showed “how Sen. Obama's support among working,
    hard-working Americans, white Americans, is weakening again, and how
    whites in [Indiana and Pennsylvania] who had not completed college were
    supporting me.” A reporter asked Clinton whether this argument was
    racially divisive. “These are the people you have to win if you're a
    Democrat,” Clinton replied dismissively. “Everybody knows that.”








    Now Clinton accuses others of playing the race card. In Charleston,
    she told the NAACP, “Some candidates talk in coded racial language about
    ‘free stuff,'
    about ‘takers' and ‘losers.' And boy, are they quick to demonize
    President Obama. This kind of talk has no place in our politics.”








    Clinton, too, speaks in code. But in this election, her coded
    phrases-“some people think we're shouting,” “some who say that this is
    an urban problem”-aren't designed to veil racism. They're designed to
    veil her meritless insinuations
    that her Democratic opponent is sexist and racist. You can argue, based
    on power or privilege, that playing the race card or sex card from the
    left isn't as bad as playing it from the right. But even if you believe
    that, Clinton's smears bring discredit on the whole idea of bigotry. If
    accusations of misogyny and racism are casually thrown at Sanders,
    voters will conclude that these terms are just rhetoric.





    Seven years ago, when Clinton's own campaign was accused of prejudice, her husband was outraged. “She did not play the race card, but they did,” Bill Clinton said of the Obama campaign. The former president went on: “This is almost like, once you accuse somebody of racism or bigotry or something, the facts become irrelevant.”
    Three months later, Mr. Clinton was still fuming. “They played the race
    card on me, and we now know from memos from the campaign and everything
    that they planned to do it all along,” he protested.
    “This was used out of context and twisted for political purposes by the
    Obama campaign to try to breed resentment elsewhere. … You really got
    to go some to try to portray me as a racist.”



    Clinton is a politician first and foremost. She isn't
    stupid and she really really wants to be president. She had Obama
    snatch it away from her 8 years ago. She will say anything or do almost
    anything to win. More...




    Now Hillary Clinton is doing to Sanders what her husband said was
    done to her. She's taking Sanders' remarks out of context and twisting
    them to breed resentment. You've got to twist the facts pretty hard to
    portray Sanders as a racist or sexist. But politically, it's easy,
    because once you start throwing around charges of bigotry, the facts
    become irrelevant. You're just another beautiful baiter. And you won't
    be silenced."


    I love this you keep playing with identity politics and group think its going to burn you in the end. Racial politics is a divide and conquer strategy as well as gender politics. The author is right all this shit is going to do besides win a few people to her cause that vote based on the junk between somebodies legs and their skin color is going to alienate the general electorate and devalue the race and sexism card. Sorry for the mess by the way I took this from Salon and it didn't translate well. Anyways how about it blades is Sanders a sexist and or racist or is this social justice warrior bull crap beginning to piss you off?
    BTW I love how the author has to stick the statement that only the left should be allowed to use the race and sexism card. LOL

     
  2. Smear campaign? Why no Democrat would ever stoop so low. [​IMG]
     
  3. Bitches be grasspin for straws.

    I'm not a supporter of either but this is hilarious and excellent.
     
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  5. Well it's not like Hillary can win by just talking about the issues. Bernie was out ahead of her on the stupidity of the Iraq war, being against gov surveillance, and the negative impacts of bank deregulation. Hilary has no leg to really stand on so she appeals to the low info voter and PC crowd by implying that Bernie is sexist or racist. When sites like salon which are the ultimate PC police are saying that Clinton is full of shit for these attacks then you know there's very little substance to them. Especially when you consider all the racist shit she's done like imply that she would be a better candidate since she wouldn't have to overcome racism, and dropping all the birther stuff during the primaries with Obama. God at this point I'm almost willing to take a republican over Clinton. At least when a republican is fucking us and dragging us into a war they'll be up front about it.
     
  6. So, what's new?


    That was a lot of text.
     
  7. Hillary is a democrat in name only (DINO) and she's the favorite for the dem nomination.


    Don't know about the reps but it isn't gonna look good there either.


    It has been decided, guys.
     
  8. You can tell us we'll keep it secret....
     
  9. I don't know what that means?
     
  10. You can thank Reagan for the smear campaigns. Politicians have been doing it ever since.
     
  11. Oh come on that is the most blatantly partisan and historically ignorant thing I have ever read. Ever heard of the Alien Sedition Acts and all the shit that was said about John Adams and Thomas Jefferson by their respective newspapers and parties. Dirty politics and smear campaigns have been going on since the United States founding.
     
  12. #13 SlowMo, Nov 6, 2015
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    It would be helpful if the one-track minded Democratic party could maybe someday actually debate the fucking issues instead of this incessant, knee-jerk strategic habit of always having to accuse their opponents of sexism-racism-blahophobia -etc. The damned party fuels itself by pitting one group against another which fragments the nation and destroys the glue that binds us together in a common cause.


    Fuck that! Enough is enough. The Republican Party is bad enough with all their paranoid nonsense, but to have a significant, growing portion of the nation aligning themselves with these self-serving termites is a sure way to destroy the social cohesion of the nation.


    We're already seeing the result of that fragmentation. It's everywhere. Are race relations better or worse since the Democrats decided to accuse wholesale those they don't agree with as being "racists"? Their open border infinitives are just another example of their propensity for bringing chaos and fragmentation (and maybe future votes toward their candidates). What WON'T they do to capture votes???


    The party needs to come back to reality. The 60s is over. Even Bernie Sander's beloved example of socialism (Denmark) has begun to move away from a more government.managed society and now leads the US in the Heritage Foundation's "Index of Economic Freedom" - http://www.heritage.org/index/ranking [​IMG] Even communist China saw the socio-economic handwritting on the wall. But not the European and American Left.


    I would love to be able to choose between two candidates that HONESTLY represented the ideologies of Left and Right. In my mind, that would be Ted Cruz vs. Bernie Sanders. Hillary Clinton is just another remnant of this tired ole "you're a racist" "you're a sexist" bullshit. She's also another fucking bold faced liar with zero integrity (e.g. "it was a vast rightwing conspiracy", "the Mohammed movie caused the attacks at Benghazi", etc).


    Which party REALLY wages a war on truth? Answer - both. But when it comes to skewing reality in obvious and destructive ways, the Democratic Party has turned bullshitting into an art form.


     
  13. Both sides have their wedge issues. The republicans use the you are a baby killer and appeal to religious morality as a way to attract voters. Dems use identity politics to try and appeal to minorities. Wedge issues will always be a thing in politics unfortunately.
     
  14. I trust Bernie sanders for sure .
     
  15. True enough.


    Like I said in the post, I'd like to see a Bernie S. vs Ted C. election because they aren't particularly adored by their respective party bosses. In fact, I'd like to see two people run against each other that had ZERO Democratic or Republican party affiliation.


    Too bad there isn't a Utilitarian party. That is, an organization that was smart enough and wise enough to utilize the good things, the REAL (vs, bullshit) solutions to REAL problems, from both Left and Right, Democrat and Republican ideologies while shitcaning all their useless crap. Get rid of all that partisan Left/Right shit that doesn't work or worse, exacerbates the very problems it pretends to be crafted to solve.
     
  16. Bernie wants us to get college degrees? Why is he not proposing to remove my tax burden which us more than my tuition?

    The government literally steals more money from me.for roads and bombs than my entire tuition would cost....

    Fuck Bernie

    -Yuri
     

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