The mystery chemical(s)

Once again, I've bumped into a contaminated weed product, from a VERY popular edible here in California (supposedly "cup winning). They supposedly lab test their product for contaminants and pesticides, but I would like to see them post the results of what they're testing (they never do). I'm not putting their name on the line here because this situation is not unique to them, it happens with most "bulk" edible companies who try and make money all over the state.

Every once in a while I come into contact with this junk. I've said it before, it tends to come from products made with "lower quality" material. This also happens with every other form of weed too - edibles just are the strongest victim here - they're often made from garbage that nobody will smoke in an attempt to concentrate the material for high THC value - the reason here being profits. In my opinion, it's just like concentrates made from lower quality materials. Sure, it has a lot of THC, but what's the quality of the overall effect?


Eating the junk is worse than smoking it. It takes about 24 - 36 hours for the effect to wear off. It irritates your stomach and your skin. It's more common than you think - you know it when you ingest it. You can guarantee it is not residual solvents or mold / bacteria - it happens in bud form all the way to fully decarboxylated edibles. And solvent extracts kill pre-existing molds / bacterias, unless subjected to contamination.


I'm going on a complete boycott from edible products and am making my own from trusted material (which always works and gives me 0 side effects, as weed should never give you any). It's also cheaper. The best way I determine it is I get my high quality products that I've enjoyed vaping and goes down smoothly, and incorporate a portion of that into edibles. The next unfortunate time I come into contact with this toxin (as picky as I am, I know it will happen again), I'm going to save up some money and send it off to a testing lab who will find out what this junk is in our weed. It may affect me worse because of my medical condition, but I'm absolutely certain it exists and this practice can't be good for anyone.

 

Like I said in my OP, I've tried just about every single major chain edible company in California and they all have defective products. It is a widespread problem in the market - which is bad because many very seriously ill people turn towards these products and will not get the medicine they deserve. This edible in particular was a Kiva Bar, and my complaints are not specifically limited to them. The root of the problem is what people are growing with and patients not complaining enough about these products so there's quality control to keep the chemical(s) out of weed. If they don't want to fairly lab test and show the results (I have yet to see posted results), they should at least know where their product came from and know exactly how it was grown.

 

No I understand your reasoning.


Let me put it to you this way : I've tried EVERY single other possibility there is. I didn't experiment for a couple of weeks, I've been complaining about this for years.


I once made an edible that gave me that reaction years ago from bud. I made the exact same edible with regular butter and had no negative reaction. It's not the food.


I had an edible last night that I made from some good oil I was dabbing on. I'm up today feeling absolutely fantastic.


I've had this negative reaction plenty of times from smoking / vaping too. It's just worse with edibles because it sits in you. It's something nasty in the weed that a good amount of growers are using.

 

I'm wondering if I'm getting sick off Eagle 20 or paclo sometimes.

 

Same here. Same applies to most pathetic excuses for "joints" that they give away for free most of the time too.

 

I think this is the best route for edibles. It's cheaper, you can see how they're made, and know what's going into them.

 

I have no idea what types of people would even enjoy those boo boo roaches... or even why they carry that trash to begin with.


I think that's a lot of the kind of weed that ends up in the edibles. People's biggest fears of edibles lately are how high the dosage is or how professional the kitchen was that they were created in. To me, these fears are negligible compared to the idea of the starting materials being poor quality. I believe this is why a lot of people don't get the results from edibles they seek.

 

It's because of profit. Like I said before, they think it's all about the THC you can compact into it, not the quality of the starting material. If they're going to do that, they figure the best way to compact it is to do it with semi-worthless material. So it's usually from the material that people will refuse to smoke. Think about it : the top shelf nugs and nug run BHO are sold for smoking, the trim often goes into trim run BHO, and the stuff that's regarded as unsmokable usually ends up in edibles.


I once went to a dispensary and told them I was going to be using some of their buds to make edibles. He was like "oh no no don't do that there's better stuff for edibles" and showed me the most garbage shake. It's just the standard that all the low shelf goes into edibles, so we get low shelf edibles... usually at a high price as well. Complete profit for the people who make it. You can tell right away when you have bad weed, bad hash, and bad oil... but most can't tell a bad edible.