LinuxOwners Journal - Season 1 - (LED, Hydro, SuperLemonHaze)

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  1. #1 LinuxOwner, Sep 24, 2015
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    Date:
    First day of Fall 2015.


    Seeds:
    (Super Lemon Haze) Placed seeds in the paper towel today at 18:00 hrs.
    Genetics Link HERE


    LEDS:
    Platinum LEDS:
    4 - Platinum P450 LEDS (2 in each tent).
    LED Link HERE


    Tents:
    The tents I am using are Apollo. 2 apollo 3'x3'x6' were installed and aligned today.
    Tent Link HERE


    Hydro Setup:
    The hydro setup is a RDWC setup it consists of 5 - 5 gallon buckets, 4 inside the tent for growing and one outside as a mixing reservoir. I have 2 of these setups, one for each 3x3 tent and they are completely independent of each other.
    System Link HERE


    Nutes & Supliments:
    General Hydroponics: 3 part (Grow, Micro, and Bloom) but will only be using 2 (Micro and Bloom).
    CaliMagic
    Rapidstart
    Botanicare: Hydroguard



    Intro:
    Spent all day opening things and putting things together. Additionally, I was able to get one of the Hydro setups completely assembled. I will consider that I have one tent mostly done. I will need to get the second tent completed in the very near future but I was short on time today. I still have the lights to hang tomorrow but I think I will have the time to get to that.


    The main objective was just to get the seeds in the towel by the first day of fall. I have done that. I still have things to do like setup the timers and what not, but at least the beans are crackin'...hopefully. I think this will do for a starting post except for adding a few thanks where needed. The camera should be arriving this week so as soon as I can I will get a few photos together. I can't be posting a million photos like some of the other cats around here as I am on limited shitty bandwidth, but I will do what I can.


    Thank You:
    Special thanks in advance to those persons who have answered questions throughout the summer and inspired me to get started. Names will be listed later as there are too many, but Crankz, ~Poke, Guesswhat, and InTheLooperton should suffice for now. Really thanks to all those people here at GC who have assisted in any way, shape, form, or fashion. It all helps in the end.


    Thanks and regards,
    LinuxOwner
     
  2. Cool. Now, get that camera... [​IMG]
     
  3. Got it today!


    Unfortunatly I had to work till midnight and then I have to be to work again @ 6am, but when I get home tomorrow at 6PM or so, ItsFknOn :).


    Thanks for stoppin by Crankz, means alot that you still had time to swing by with all the posts you have to deal with in your journal. Nice friend.


    Catch ya tomorrow,
    Linux
     
  4. My Main Mfr Loopy Looperton... What it do, Foo? :)
    Nice to see you man!

    You Fellas ready for Tech support? I have taken photos but I have to install the fkn camera software or whatever to download the mfrs from my camera to my PC and then I might be able to upload them from there. So which is best should I use like Photobucket or should I just send them straight through grasscity? I will try to have them by tomorrow night after work.

    So I got home today started riggin' shit up lickity-split. My girl said that one of my beans looked liked it popped and was showing tail (not taproot) but tail. I quickly went to the office and got the LEDS hung. NOT an easy task. Maybe for some people it is, for me, not so much, but they are up.

    Issue 1,
    I have the 2 p450s up and ready to rock and roll save for plugging them in. I have them hung at 40" from the hydroton. This is what PLED had listed for seedling height in the paperwork that they sent. Any corrections there?

    Issue 2,
    What fkn level should I have the water in the hydro buckets at? I think I remember Crank saying just below the netpots? is that right? If not, answer plz. On the same note, my reverse osmosis setup is not working the way that I want it to. Its just all fucked up so Im aggravated with that. Unfortunatly, my PPM (well water) is sitting at like 200ppm. I have that meter that will do everything that you want it to. I think I have set for PPM/442 I hope you guys know what I mean by that. I chose that because they said that setting was the best option to mimic natural water. I want to say that the PH was 7.9 - 8.0.
    Comments?

    Issue 3,
    I'm fkn exhauseted man. :mad:

    In closing, I'm not very good with the journal or whatever so excuse all my mistakes and whatever the hell else I have screwed up. I'll get the hang of it soon enough. Hit me up about these water level fellas so I can get these buckets where the hell they need to be and go to be, LoL. Regarding what my girl said, I took a look just a few minutes ago and I can't really see that they have popped to a point where I should be transplanting them tonight, I think it will be a task for when I get hom tomorrow night. I guess I will be dropping my popped beans into 1"x1" Ph'd rockwool cubes 5.5 ph, right? and shove the rockwool cubes right into the hydroton. I'm just too fkn skeered to put my lil seedling into the hydroton.

    Thx in advance,
    Linux
     
  5. Yes just below the net pots if using rockwool or rapid rooters, if strait into hydroton however 1 inch above bottom of net cups.

    The rockwool can get over saturated very quickly bro.. so just keep an eye on em, and when the roots start to show on the bottom, bring level up to 2" above bottom of net cup ime..

    Yup 5.5 to 6.0 ph on cubes soaked for 24 hours at least my bro
     
  6. Well, I just got done doing some major changes. Seems like everything was NOT Kosher in the tent regarding the Hydro buckets. The one rez (outside the tent) was not sitting at the same level as the other buckets inside the tent so of course the water level was not the same on the buckets inside as the one outside. In fact, in order for me to get the water level to the bottom of the net pots inside the tent, I had to lower the control rez by 8". So that was fun having to undo/redo all the pvc etc.

    Beans are fully popped, both of them and they look a tad bit overdone, they werent dried out or anything in the paper towels, but they were clearly in there like 12 or so hours too long. I say this as the 2 new leaves were looking brownish/red instead of nice green. EIther way, I Ph'd the rockwool cubes to 5.5 put the fkn seeds best I could inside the cubes and stuck them into the hydroton. Other than that shit, everything else with the hydro buckets and the o2 lines, everything seems to be ok.

    Temps were sitting ok, like 73 or something. Erm, There's a blade around here goes by the name of IceCreamMan and I like his Journal setup, Im gonna shamelessly steal his format and start utilizing it. I will get on that tomorrow.
    Will try to also get the pictures that I have taken this far uploaded too, I just have a few bigger priorities such as trying to actually salvage my seeds, LoL.

    Fingers crossed,
    Linux
     
  7. Pulled up a seat! Sounds like a solid plan, can't wait to see se pics.
     
  8. Hi Gerrit,


    Thanks for checking it out (my journal), nice to have you here. :)


    I haven't been able to get the pics done quite yet, but I'm working on it. As this is my first grow, I have all the issues that come along with being a greenhorn. Right now, I am working on dialing everything in and fixing things like leaks on buckets and fighting with ambient temps etc. Currently the biggest issue is the commercial air pump, it is actually quiet noisy. Once a get a few of these major issues taken care of, I will work on getting the pics uploaded. I actually did take a few pics, I just have to get them uploaded. I finally got them off the camera onto the flash drive.


    Looks like the seedlings are fighting to stay alive, but they might make it. Yesterday, I was not so sure. Gonna close up this post so I can go fetch the template I was wanting from IceCreamMan.


    Linux
     
  9. 24 hours since transplanted.


    DAY: 02
    PH: 6.0
    PPM: N/A Yet
    TEMP: L/H: 66/84
    HUMIDITY: Current 51, L/H: 51/81
    HEIGHT: 01"


    Most of these readings are all over the place as I have been working in the room. Hopefully, they will settle down within the next few days.
     
  10. #11 LinuxOwner, Sep 29, 2015
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    Giving a shot at posting some pics.


    The chiller and some toys. 1.jpg


    The basic setup. 2.jpg


    The 2 P450s connected. 3.jpg


    Reverse Osmosis setup and wet bar [​IMG] 4.jpg


    Ventec 6" Filter mounted w/duct. 5.jpg


    The left plant. l_1.jpg


    The right plant. r_1.jpg
     
  11. Looks good, other than the rockwool is pretty wet. You wanna lower your water level, or whatever you need to do to allow them to dry up some. You could just lift the lids out of the buckets (they don't really need to be in them yet), and hand wet the cubes if they dry out. As they are now, the roots will be struggling to get out of the netpots.
    Right now, they just need the cubes to stay moist. Not soaked at all.
     
  12. Sorry I've been away so long! It's good to see you have a journal up and everything running.


    I'm still new to hydro, and I'll have an update about that whole story in my journal, but things seemed to work great at a pH of 5.3-5.8. So I'd keep it at or above 5.3 to around 5.8 and if it hit 6.0 pH I lowered it back down to near 5.3. If I fed and it went below 5.3 I'd raise it to around 5.6 (since it had a tendency to fall again afterward). Also try and gently cover up around the stem of the seedlings. It will give them a little support and a little shade from the lights. Like I said though, be careful. They're still fragile at this stage [​IMG]


    Otherwise I really hope you get some good results! The lights are going to be beast. If you want to know what I pulled off my Barneys Farm Diesel Auto under my P300 let me know, or check my thread in like 20 minutes haha.


    Sorry to rant, it's been too long since I've been on this site. I've been so excited to see this thread too!


    Temps and humidity look pretty good. 84 with lights on is starting to get a little high, but if you have good airflow and good exhaust you should be fine. Certain strains will like it and some might not. I can't see by the pictures, do you have a fan inside the tent for circulation? Are you measuring temps at canopy level?
     
  13. Thanks Crank. Great info. I'll make sure that I ease up on the watering, The water level in the pots are just below. I think what you might have been seeing was that I took an eye dropper and had added some 5.5 water to them since I was going to be letting them be for the night. I'm really not sure if they are as bad as they look in the photo, but I will def cut back. I will be at work from like 6am to 6pm tomorrow so it will be easy for me to LITFA. :)


    Thanks for all the help as always,
    Linux
     
  14. Nice that you are back around. :)

    No, I do not have a fan for the inside of the tent yet, I will be ordering a few very soon. Feel free to post a link or two if you have some suggestions (amazon prime FTW). I figured it best not to blow anything in the tent as I might knock the little fuckers down.

    It has been one hell of a fight. I was trying to kick everything off by the 1st and didn't make it, then I opted to go for 1st day of fall (23rd) and got it, but I have been fighting with anything and everything since then...fkn leaks (Light and water ffs). I only have the one 3x3 tent setup and running. I hope to get to the other one and the clone machine within the next week or 2. Tis true that I should have taken the photo of the back side of the tent where the 6" Ventec Vortex fan is and the control rez is, whatever, maybe I'll get to it tomorrow, prolly not though.

    I really don't have a lot of faith in the little fuckers as everything that has been going wrong has been. I'll try to keep the journal updated best I can. Hopefully I will have some time to work on everything tomorrow when I get home.

    I'll check your thread and shit before I go to bed. Later HomeSkillet.
    Linux

    Ps, wait, cover up around the stem, wtf should I use to do that? ...and the temps are being measured by the little thermo checker that everyone has, its sitting right next to the hydroton on the skirt of the lid. If you look closely, you can see the bottom of it in one of those plant pics.
     
  15. Ok that should help out a bit. It'll get that hot air circulating away from your plant and toward the exhaust. I use a few different fans. But if everything is small I start with http://www.amazon.com/Ozeri-Brezza-Oscillating-Hig... which is on sale, no Prime. There are two new versions with high reviews here and here both with Prime. The first version I have is quite powerful if need be. Plus it sits low and helps to push hot air up and circulate it around as it oscillates. Any fresh air coming in from the low intakes in most tents will also get drawn through this and pushed up towards the canopy.


    For larger plants or areas I honestly use Lasko fans from Walmart. I had oscillating tower fans prior, but the cheap oscillating stand fans are good enough. I think I get them locally for cheaper than online. They are light weight and cheap quality, but I have had them run nonstop for years with no issues yet. Sometimes for grows and sometimes for summer heat. I highly recommend just getting that fan locally. Should be like $15-20.


    Oh a light breeze around the plants right now would be fine. Directly blowing on them with a fan would be bad like you said. But as they grow the breezes/winds from a fan help to strengthen their stalk and branches, as well as move out stale air in the canopy. You don't want mold! It should drop canopy temps though so at least look into a small fan for now.


    I'm sorry about the issues you've had. But once you fix them all should be well for loner. Grows are always a work in progress so it's just part of the process. Time will tell for the seedlings.


    I see the thermometer now. I just meant push some hydroton up against it. You don't have to do it, especially if you think you'll damage them. It's partially my soil grower in me. When seedlings stretch for light or are too thin (just as an example) people are usually told to put soil around them stem to help support it. In hydro of course we don't want roots to see light, or the water. Less light down below (roots and res) = better health down below and above (canopy).
     
  16. Thanks man, Just like Crank you have provided some great info. Good thing too man, I'll take all I can. When I get home from work tomorrow, I will take care of all the things you mentioned.
    Additionally, Thanks for the links to the fans. I will be checking the links and subsequently buying a few of them.


    Ill hit you up more tomorrow when it isnt so late for me.


    Regards,
    Linux
     
  17. DAY: 04
    PH: 6.0
    PPM: N/A Yet
    TEMP: L/H: 77/88
    HUMIDITY: Current 40, L/H: 39/55
    HEIGHT: 1.5"(est)


    Still trying to dial things in. I should be able to fine tune things a little better by this weekend. Posting pics for records sake.


    Left Plant 100_0028.JPG


    Right Plant 100_0027.JPG


    Specs 100_0029.JPG




     
  18. They look a lot better in these pictures. Hopefully their little roots are searching and developing. Once that happens your hydro system should come into play and all will explode in growth from there. I'm very optimistic with you because you've done lots of research and have good equipment.
     
  19. Guess,


    Thanks man, your vote of confidence is nice. I'll tell you what sucks though, it seems like for all the researching and reading that I did this summer, everything that I learned is not applicable yet, LoL.
    For Example, I posted in Crank's tread earlier regarding the amount of water that the little seedlings should be using. What I mean is, everyone--- I mean, EVERYONE apparently saturates the rockwool cubes and has horrible results. I have been very sparce on my watering since I don't want to do what everyone else seems to be doing. I basically said that within like the last 24 hours I have given the guys like 3ml from an eydropper of PH'd 5.5 water. That really seems like nothing to me. I kinda am hoping that I will notice if they are starting to suffer from lack of water, but I'm gone to work from like 6am to 6pm.
    I have the rockwool cubes in the Hydroton just so I dont have to transplant later, but they are in no way getting water from the buckets even though I have that setup and running. Additionally, if you looked at the photos you will notice that I made a feeble attempt at shoring up the stalks with the hydroton like you suggested.
    I am just worried that those cubes will be drying out faster than I think (since I have no experience) with my mid 80's temperatures and the double p450 lights running.

    Do you have any recollection from when you had seedlings how much agua you were giving on the first week or so?

    Thanks for checking on my Journal too man, means alot that you swing by to check on the status. Hope all is going well. I'm gonna go check on them about now before I go to bed. Oh hey, I have another question real quick since I am thinking about it. You know I have the Ventec 6" fan and filter etc. I have the stupid shit all hooked up and what not (sock included), I was wondering, I technically don't need to be running that filter to flower time, right? Even if thats true, I just kinda figured fuck it, less I would have to do later.

    I like the fans you suggested, however, I am going to be running a scrog and I am not sure that they will be the best suited for my needs. I am looking for some clip-on oscillating fans, but damn if that isnt proving to be a little bit of a challenge. I think they would be better suited as they can be above the canopy once established.

    Thanks again for all the help,
    Linux
     

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