Of being wrong

Discussion in 'Philosophy' started by yurigadaisukida, Sep 20, 2015.

  1. What happens when someone disagrees with you? Typically the same process.

    First: you assume they must be naive. They must not have all the facts.

    Second: once you realize they have the facts, you assume they must be dumb. They have all the pieces of the puzzle, but cannot fit them together.

    Third: they must be evil or delusional. Either they are lying for their own personal gain, or they are simply creating a conclusion that doesn't follow the facts.

    Why do we do this? Why is it so difficult to realize when we are wrong?

    -Yuri
     
  2. I think its not difficult to realize you're wrong, because if they had facts then you would be wrong.

    I think you're confusing differences in opinions, why's it hard to accept someone elses opinion?
     
  3. Wrong is connected to context. For example: If you are a salesman, wrong is usually something you do not give a fuck about, because you have something to gain from being right.


    If we are talking logically wrong, there are few things that we can actually say are wrong. Things connected to money for example, there can be wrong/right choices, but it sounds like you are talking conversationally and even if you are right, why not just say you are wrong and that person is right so you no longer have to engage with their stupidity. <--- This is a crucial skill in life.
     
  4. Mix of stupidity and stubborness.


    Ive just had this in killsets puring beer on my compost pile - classic example of a mix of stupidity and stubborness.
     
  5. I make a point out of being objective. If the facts presented prove me wrong then I have no choice but to admit defeat
     
  6. This, I do everything I can to make sure my decision making process is not biased. I consider both sides of the coin always.
     
  7. There is a formula at work there.

    Ego + Circumstance = How strongly we don't want to admit we're wrong.

    The bigger the ego, the more certain of one's superiority one tends to be. If there is something on the line, like winning a debate, or proving a nemesis rival wrong, the chance of refusing to admit wrong increases accordingly.








     
  8. Its nature we get stuck in patterns of bigotry.

    I personally started opening my minds eye now I get the gist of the facts and don't jump to the conclusion I know everything.

    If u know everything, how does a zipper work?

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  9. Who are we to say whats right and whats wrong, We have yet to understand life and how the universe works.


    Best thing to do is agree to disagree :)

     
  10. Trained to be perfect.
     
  11. #11 wafdof, Oct 10, 2015
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    I controlled Air Traffic for 24+ years and in that task I was not often wrong and even if you are you to fix it rather quickly, before that I managed a really busy store as a kid for 5 years. That being said you have to see and admit when you are wrong to get along with everyone else.



    When I managed I made sure I didn't manage with an iron fist and treat people like shit. You ALL know those bosses, I actually cared. When I trained new controllers I never trained them my way or the highway like most did. I trained them how to use the tools and coached them. Nothing that worked was wrong, just maybe not as efficient. I recall telling my 5 year old daughter (at the time) I was wrong and she was right. It gives them confidence to stand up when appropriate, how to do it properly and that nobody is always right. I also recalled how other authority figures (teachers) in her life acted like they were always right. We agreed that they were full of shit and sometimes you have to just ignore the dummies. Case in point. MJ is a gateway drug....is still fucking being taught in a state where we have legal medical MJ.
     

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