My concept of GOD

Discussion in 'Religion, Beliefs and Spirituality' started by AbstractMinds, Sep 8, 2015.

  1. Imagine a lamp genie appears and tells you he will grant you two wishes.


    The first wish is: I want to be phisically able to recieve, memorize and understand ALL the knowledge in the universe (of course without any harm or damage in me, psychologically and phisically).


    The second wish is: To actually get/learn/understand ALL the knowledge in the universe.


    What happens to you when the first wish is granted. I think you would have to pass through a metamorphosis, where you evolve into a state where you are literally everywhere, where you become an entity, being inifinite capable of understanding infinite knowledge tha thappen almost simuntaniously in the universe. By becoming infinite, i think you become energy itself, you become the universe itself! there is no more concept of space-time for you, since you are everything!


    What happens when the second wish is granted. You just know, many people say "I know about this" or I know about that", I thinkwhen you get all the knowledge in the universe, so "I just know". But what does it mean to know all the knowledge in the universe, it means that you know everything that has happened, is happening, will happen, in the whole universe. You could know every detail about everyone, everything. the time doeesnt matter anymore, in fact becuase everything you know is happening at the same time, time doesnt exist anymore. And if you want to get more deeper, you would also know every possible escenario, we have many parallel universes, with historeic events that changed in that universe from ours, that knowledgee about everything would also apply in every parallel universe (which there are infinite universes).


    I think that the result of having the characteristics of both wishes granted is what god is.





     
  2. you cant be an orange and an apple at the same time. what i mean is, you cant be a normal average every day human with all of our human parts and also be an orange or something that physically allows you to break the laws of reality. i mean if it were possible then it would be happening. to be able to do a thing you must be or have the thing that does the thing you want to do.


    what i think would happen is you would be instantaneously transported in front of god. then, Arnold from different stokes comes out to confront you and your desire to fuck with gods universe. i think if you made a machine that would do what you are asking then god would still conjure you up and lay down a smack down of epic proportions.


    you are human, therefore you are human. or they would fuck with you and give all of that to you for 1 billionth of a second and then rip it from your memory. no matter what i get the feeling there are more ways to keep it from you then there are to give it away to you.


    if answers are what you seek, then maybe go far far into the future where most answers will probably be known. i dunno man as a kid we played lots of role playing type games and every time some one got a wish and asked for this kind of thing the world in very short order came undone. that was just a make believe game. imagine the reality of it all. pretty scary my friend.


    you had me thinking for quite a while, thank you for that! i look forward to your retort!
     
  3. In this example i gave, it was just away of saying the inmensity of god and that what he is capable of is inmense! (not necesarilly as the genie part is going to happen or could happen)(just for an easier understanding).


    Now lets go to your apples and oranges example (sorry i didnt quite understand you), but if what you meant was that you are human,and because you are human you cant be phisically god because its way out of our capabilities, the answer to that is the first wish that the human gave to the genie, and by becoming capable through a phisicall change, however you are no longer human by having that phisicall change. But that's where the interesting part begins because how can you be everything but not human?, after all, the human forms part of everything. The answer to that is not found in the phisicall plane (since you are not phisically human), but the answer is found within the consciousness.


    If you have ever read about the egg theory (if not you should read it), it talks about how our consciusness moves from place to place through reencarnation without obeying the laws of time, and if you would be god you would know every transicion your soul has made or could have made (again infinite posibilities), <--- that plus the theory of time that everything is happening simuntaniously (past, present and future are all happening right now), so by acknowledging and knowing that everything is everything all the time (even though it sounds redundant) you are being human, because you are conscious of it.


    Hope this has helped, any idea you have about this please tell me :)
     
  4. it still feels like you are breaking reality with that whole idea. what i mean is, either reality or you and your reality have to change to accommodate the new reality and the laws that would be needed for such things to exist from the wish you made. cause and effect.


    i think wishes are inherently dangerous because you can never ever encompass a wish to make it safe. no matter how many conditions you place upon a wish, those conditions themselves create yet more loop holes for the wish itself to end up in full on chaos mode. it is the nature of a wish to stab its user in the back.


    what i meant by apples and oranges is that for one to be an apple, one has to be an apple. to be an orange, one has to be an orange. if i had something that was in every way an apple except that it grew orange seeds inside of it, it would then be more and less then an apple. it is more then an apple because it contains orange seeds and it is less then an apple because it no longer contains apple seeds. in effect, no longer an apple at all. that is what i mean. for such a thing to live and continue on with its own existence, for it to continue to exist in reality, the laws of reality would have to be changed.








     

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