The cops are tracking you RIGHT NOW.....

Discussion in 'Pandora's Box' started by ImTheJoker4u2, Sep 5, 2015.

  1. #1 ImTheJoker4u2, Sep 5, 2015
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    This is EXACTLY why I didn't want a fucking "smart" phone [​IMG] My old ass Envy brick was just fine to use AS A PHONE, and to text, and (AFAIK) a LOT harder to track.
    What I wanna know is why doesn't this bother more people? Why dont THE BILL OF RIGHTS matter to anyone? 1st, 2nd, 4th, 10th, 14th, all but a shadow of what they once stood for.
    I mean if the pigs need a warrant to put a bug on your land-line, and a tracking device on your car, then why is it perfectly cool if they just use your cell-phone to do all that, no warrant needed?


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    WHY DOES THIS NOT PISS ANYONE OFF?!?!?!?!?!??!!?

     
  2. What? You think your use of the word "pigs" in an internet post has gone unsorted in the NSA database?
     
  3. #3 Ninjaballs, Sep 5, 2015
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    I keep my location services off, but that's mainly to save battery.

    And I might sound crazy, but I feel safer while they keep an eye on people. They won't bother me, no worries here.
     
  4. LMFAO... Thats the least of my worries :laughing:
    I might be wrong but, AFAIK you can still be tracked even with the services turned off. As long as you have service, you're being tracked. It goes by the cell tower that your phone makes contact with. Turning off all GPS, and putting it it airplane mode makes it harder, but then its pretty much useless.
    Of course you dont even need to be near a cell tower for them to listen to your conversations...
    <blockquote class='ipsBlockquote' >
    http://www.cnet.com/news/fbi-prepares-to-defend-st...


    FBI prepares to defend 'Stingray' cell phone tracking
    Privacy
    groups plan to tell a judge tomorrow that controversial cell phone
    tracking technology, used by federal police since at least the
    mid-1990s, violates Americans' Fourth Amendment rights.


    The Federal Bureau of Investigation's secretive "Stingray" surveillance
    technology that allows police to surreptitiously track the locations of
    cell phones and other mobile devices will itself go on trial in an
    Arizona courtroom tomorrow afternoon.


    Attorneys representing the U.S. Department of Justice are expected to
    defend warrantless use of stingray devices, which trick mobile devices
    into connecting to them by impersonating legitimate cell towers.
    Prosecutors yesterday filed court documents saying stingrays were used
    in investigations in Arizona and Wisconsin going back to 2008.


    In the legal skirmishing leading up to tomorrow's three-hour hearing,
    federal attorneys have told U.S. District Judge David Campbell that the
    defendant in this case, Daniel Rigmaiden, did not have reasonable
    "privacy expectations" in the whereabouts of his Verizon mobile
    broadband card and "thus the agents in this case were not required to
    obtain a warrant."
    One of the so-called stingray cell phone tracking devices, which impersonates a cell tower.
    Civil libertarians are hoping the Rigmaiden case will be the first in
    the nation to impose privacy limits on how police use stingrays, in much
    the same way that previous legal challenges have resulted in curbs on warrantless use of thermal imaging devices and GPS tracking of vehicles through physical bugs.


    To the American Civil Liberties Union and the Electronic Frontier
    Foundation, it's a clear case of surveillance technology outpacing the
    law. They say that "the government's use of the stingray violated the
    Fourth Amendment." Because stingrays represent a dragnet surveillance
    technique, capturing not only the target's electronic identifier but
    that of anyone else in the vicinity, the technique amounts to precisely
    the type of general search warrant outlawed by the Fourth Amendment, they say.
    </blockquote>

     
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  6. I recognize their database and raise them one, come and stop us.
    Pigs.
     
  7. Pretty sure they've been watching me since around 96 when I was arrested for... Well...They've probably been watching me ever since [​IMG]
    And since then I'm even more pro-constitution, anti-government than I was before so... Yea :( :laughing:
    Still here screamin'


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  8. Yeah this is garbage. There was a good ruling he other day though that stingrays generally require a warrant for FBI, NSA, and a couple other agencies except under exigent circumstances. It's still bullshit that they can do it under exigent circumstances but better than when there was absolutely no warrant requirement for a stingray. For people who don't know what a stingray it is basically a device that copies a cell tower and receives information from cell phones that hook up to the fake cell tower. Unfortunately there is no requirement on local law enforcement, although some states do have warrant requirements but a vast majority don't which is very alarming. This idea that you can't expect privacy on a cell phone is one of the most asinine and retarded interpretations of the fourth amendment of all time. We need a president who talks about these issues because most Americans are fucking clueless or think you're a conspiracy nut when you talk about shit like this which is beyond frustrating.
     
  9. I know I'm definitely being watched the shit I watch on the Internet and buy must set off alarm bells (for no reason).



    Hi gchq & cia :D
     
  10. I wonder what kind of tax loopholes and other benefits these mobile service providers get to allow pigs access to there buisness records. Fucking corporate tools.
     
  11. You guys are fairly lucky. The wankerland government can and do read our cell information and have done for a long time for any dam reason - eg in one case someone's dog shitting in a local park.


    Be great if you guys could stick to your original constitution then liberate Europe from the socialist elite who have destroyed our God given liberties and freedoms.


    McCarthy was wise beyond his years.




     
  12. only thing their tracking can do is tell the coppers where the poor people and law abiding citizens are at...
    any criminal with a brain having found out that they could be tracked, can just register a few devices, hand them to people, and send them on trips all over the place while 'the criminal' uses some other phone and travels undetected.


    It's as if the keystone cops are running things...most of the '1984' type surveillance laws and approaches to people/drug/gun control do nothing to stop a criminal...they just keep the law abiding sheeple in a state of fear.

     
  13. McCarthy is an example of how to run a witch hunt...not a wise person at all, he was full of hate, fear and loathing...and had no moral or ethical quandaries about using any power he could get to crush people that were innocent of any wrong doing...

     
  14. Great thread, breaking down barriers. Keep it up.
     
  15. Yeh he was a a tool but he sent the right message out - socialism is evil. It is at the heart of these laws in so called democracies.


    Only thing protecting us now are the masons, last line of defence against the corporate socialist elite.
     
  16. Imo, even worse than cell phone tracking, is how much info people willingly give up to "social media"
     
  17. social media has only one purpose - trolling politicians and celebs via a vpn, open wi fi and a disposable smart phone.
     
  18. Socialism isn't inherently evil if just often leads to totalitarianism and corrupt ass regimes which is why it's a bad political system. The idea of socialism if it could ever work in reality is probably pretty nice, but the thing is can't ever work long term because the people in power always become corrupted. Also property ownership is a vastly important thing to have for a functioning society which is why Socialism fails. This is why social democracy, which is what the USA really leans towards is probably the most effective way. There is democracy, constitution, and property ownership. However there are certain social programs that people agree (are forced) to pay taxes to universally have access to that can contribute to the welfare of the overall population. These include police, firefighters, libraries, schools, jails, courts, public defenders, highways and roads, dams, bridges, tunnels, Medicare, social security, food stamps, government scientific research, parks, corporate welfare, and a whole litany of organizations
    and regulators. Of course there are tons of problems, corruption, and inefficiencies but that's inevitable in any political system.
    Socialism isn't inherently evil if just often leads to totalitarianism and corrupt ass regimes which is why it's a bad political system. The idea of socialism if it could ever work in reality is probably pretty nice, but the thing is can't ever work long term because the people in power always become corrupted. Also property ownership is a vastly important thing to have for a functioning society which is why Socialism fails. This is why social democracy, which is what the USA really leans towards is probably the most effective way. There is democracy, constitution, and property ownership. However there are certain social programs that people agree (are forced) to pay taxes to universally have access to that can contribute to the welfare of the overall population. These include police, firefighters, libraries, schools, jails, courts, public defenders, highways and roads, dams, bridges, tunnels, Medicare, social security, food stamps, government scientific research, parks, corporate welfare, and a whole litany of organizations
    and regulators. Of course there are tons of problems, corruption, and inefficiencies but that's inevitable in any political system.
     
  19. socialism as it is actually defined is not evil (it is different then 'democracy' for sure, but it isn't evil)...the few attempts to create a socialist society were all flawed and corrupted by greed for money & or power...and it was that corrupted version which McCarthy feared (while ignoring his own backyard 'democracy' being corrupted via his own actions)


    humans can dream of a 'democratic', 'socialist' or 'communist' society, but they have never and will never exist due to the corruption of people...same problem exist in the USA..it is corrupted..all we can do is try to keep the corruption in check.

     
  20. #20 Father Ted, Sep 5, 2015
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    America is as corrupt as wankerland but you have the american dream.
    Socialism is inherently evil imho as is conservatism and any other ism except libertarianism.
    Property ownership is what enslaves us. We are the only animal who pays simply to exist.
    The elite hog all the land and resources. It is made legitimate by throwing those lower down the ladder the scraps of home ownership - enslaving them for life by the threat of taking it.
     

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