Im so confused.

Discussion in 'General' started by Hello there!, Aug 30, 2015.

  1. How do you complain without being as annoying as those you're complaining about?


    I recently came across a post on another forum. It was something like, "that person is despicable because they act like others are below them. I find that when people act like that, it's because they are usually the lowest of the low. I had better leave now, because I don't want to be seen with the likes of them."


    [​IMG] WHAT?!


    Then there's me. I see this act, and all I want to do is call this person a hypocrite. I half want to be made fun of for not getting the joke, and half want to receive gratification from others for calling this hypocrite out. Because I feel that most of us want to.


    Next I think, "If I commit to this response, then I will be judged for my judgment." I actually take the time to consider how other people view the public exposure of my personal judgment on others. Why do I do that? I am not in a place to judge others. Nor have I ever been. Yet I might express my opinion. May whatever God might exist damn me for doing so. It is rude. It is not okay.


    Yet, here I am. I read what people write, and I try to think of why that person might be saying that - or why this other person might think such and such. And I automatically judge them. Why?


    I think if I don't judge them, I will naturally accept everything into my life that I come across. Without opinion, a murderer that doesn't murder me is as good a friend as one who doesn't even acknowledge my presence. Someone who buys me groceries is as equal of a friend as someone who smokes all my weed.


    Opinion, judgment - these things are necessary. As much as we may feel judged by them (perhaps my problem), they really are what define us. Actions? Our judgment leads us to action. Our opinion can keep us away from certain activities.


    What is the difference between publicizing our judgments/opinions and keeping them private?


    What factors in our upbringing might be influential in our ideas of the previous question?


    Is this even worth discussing? If not, what is - and why?


    I don't even know what the point of this thread is. I hope you see it, because I'm just typing as I think. I wish I could say it were aimlessly, but there is something I am aiming for. It's just out of focus, or too far for me to sensually grasp.
     
  2. #2 roorforcrumble, Aug 30, 2015
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    It is wrong to act like people are beneath you, even if they might be less than reputable that doesn't mean you should treat them badly. Most people have feelings, and while someone may be misguided or wrong you have to be gentle with people so that they will be willing to listen and seriously consider what you say. We are all guilty of it, whether it is about another race or someone you know, we have all treated someone or a group as beneath us for one reason or another. It is wrong because it hurts their self esteem and it is more productive to positively encourage change.
     
  3. It is wrong to act like people are beneath me - because it hurts their pride and we would achieve more by making others happy to change. Am I misunderstanding this?


    I am confused when you say "it is more productive to positively encourage change." When I read those words, the message I interpreted can only be described as, "it's better to change others than act like they're beneath me."


    Could you please elaborate for me?

     
  4. #4 roorforcrumble, Aug 30, 2015
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    It is more productive for their personal being. And no it is not about pride, it is about negativity and the affect it has on the mind. You will see much more efficient results with positivity and rationality than you would by putting someone down. Sure it is good to be critical, but you can be critical and suggest change without being negative to the point of hurting someone's feelings, explain the pros of your argument, explain the positive and with a positive attitude.
     
  5. I hate the sinner but I love their sins.
     
  6. I attempted to read this right after a giant dab hit.
    Now I'm too stoned to make any sense of it, I'm getting too confused.


    I'll come back when I'm sobered up.
     
  7. If someone treats someone as inferior with no positive criticism, they're a dick. I don't care how it's justified.
     
  8. Just establish yourself as the patrician and explain how plebeian they are. Nothing wrong with helping people below you realize where they are.
     
  9. Here's what i find fucked up

    There are no assholes, hypocrites, liars, abusers, losers or idiots

    Because most ppl dont identify themselves as something bad.
    who sees themselves in a negative light?

    And I think its good to go around criticizing ppl... if ppl would accept it as constructive criticism and better themselves

    But most dont. The walls go up. The bubble is inflated and they go into defense mode

    It's probably something we've been carrying with us for a few millennias

    There was a point when you had to defend your food, shelter and mate. Your property

    Today your personality is your property. If someone attacks it they're trying to take something away from you

    We're animals. We succumb to the same retarded instincts tht makes animals behave like... animals

    Then again who died and made you humanities personal life coach?

    Even the annoying eccentricities make a person what they are

    We're after all just sharing space. And we shouldn't use each other's senses to alter each other's stress levels

    You're using someone's eyes and ears, their vocabulary and comprehension to anger them, to make them act irrationally

    It's a much milder form of rape

    And then we put "stupid" ppl on TV and point and them and humiliate them. But would you act differently under the same circumstances? Are you mocking someone because they were not offered the same life you had?

    But it doesn't matter. Happy or sad, success or failure. there's no trophy at the end. No next level or even a hardy hand shake with the creator. Just one last heart beat

    So do what your must
     
  10. I think I prefer to let people be dicks because fuck em - I don't care. Unless they're bringing their dickdom on me like The Attack of the Kingdom of Dickheads. Then I bring my dickdom on them and then they on me and on and on.....
     
  11. No it isn't.



     
  12. #12 Deleted member 839659, Sep 1, 2015
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    ya it is


    You enter a person mind and alter their mood, their self control


    It's psychological rape. not to denigrate the seriousness of actual rape. but since there's no word for psych-rape [​IMG]

     
  13. There's no word, but it's definitely not a form of rape. "Altering someone's mood" is not rape. And calling things rape that aren't rape does denigrate the seriousness of actual rape.
     
  14. Are you thinking of gaslighting?

     
  15. pretty cool read. First i want to figure out if this social media thing is becoming too much of a issue. This isn't big on the worries or priorities list...


    Anyways, my opinion is you shouldn't judge anybody. Also anybody that makes you feel crunchy for doing good in life probably isn't the best person to be a friend. Advice can be taken as judgement. I don't really care. But i do keep it real and i'm not sure if keeping it real all the time is a good thing. But i don't ever try to come at anybody sideways and judge them. Seriously. I try to remember everyday not to judge people. If you are judging people and telling people how to be or live their life, then maybe it is a self reflection of your own life. Certain people have certain views and choose to live a certain way or with a certain attitude because of the life experience he/she had. One person may say "fuck that homeless bum,get a job you healthy son of a bitch" "another man might say "man thats rough. i've been there. im gonna give him a dollar" the last guy might say "oh my gosh this poor man is so sad. bless his little heart .im going to give him 10 dollars!!!!"....its all perspective and i don't judge anybody for how they want to feel about something. Its their right to feel how they feel. If i dont like it ill tell you and probably wont contact you anymore. i dont have facebook or i'd be "friends" with alot of different people i don't think are that bright or nice.


    All in all who gives a fuck. your opinion on social media dosen't mean shit nor will it make a point. i can't believe i wrote this.


    i'm not judging you bro. This is my opinion. Maybe i am judging a little bit but i dont give a shit
     
  16. I like the part where you say, "All in all, who gives a fuck". I coulda penned those words. And thoughts just like that has formed the core element of many of my internet posts. lol
     
  17. No not rlly. I'm introducing a new idea. Insulting someone, simply agitating them or in any way causing them to act irrationally through words (or the middle finger) is a form of physical (or psychological) violation. Anger doesn't benefit the victim but you're taking their self control away from them. Thus you rape someone by insulting them

     
  18. I am not willing to subscribe to that theory at all.
     
  19. Y'all writing these long ass emotional posts. Need a hallmark card for that
     
  20. We pass judgement all the time. What we choose to do with that elicits judgement of ourselves from others.


    It's hard to really bother with what's really right or wrong because it's so subjective.

     

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