Post a stealthy LOW ODOR Strain you have grown

Discussion in 'Security' started by QwitchurBitchin, Aug 22, 2015.

  1. Hi all Blades and Bladettes....[​IMG]


    My goal is to collect strains I may wish to experience in the future if I can be sure they fit my grow criteria concerns. First and foremost is odor control, and I want to collect a list of these low odor strains and build a thread for us new growers to be able to reference so we will have "first hand" knowledge from people that have actually grown these strains and can give us an idea of what to expect if we want to grow the same strain in the future.


    Now, with SO MANY breeders, strains, autos, feminised, etc., etc. I would like to know a strain that you personally have grown in a stealth concern situation (this generally means a small grow of 1-3 plants) that you were happy with. In other words, you felt comfortable with the odor / stealth of the grow while growing and plant maintenance (unzipping the tent, opening the door, etc.) during flowering. Yes, yes, I know the comments of invest in a good scrubber / fan, etc., which we have, but we still must work in the grow area on occasion....so, this is the concern and would easier to understand what to expect if we had some additional grow information.


    I'm sure you have left the room and come home and said: Wow....it smells like __________ in here ( IOW's, fill in the blank for us)


    Please give some detail to your experience with the strain:


    1) Strain and breeder: Sativa / Indica / Hybrid (Sativa / Indica %-percent)
    2) Auto / Fem / photo
    3) How many plants of this strain in the grow
    4) Plant size at harvest (when you really noticed the aroma)
    5) Tent size or grown in an open room of size?
    6) Please describe the aroma as best as possible ( citrus = orange/lime/lemons/apples/watermelons, a combination of them all, lemon pledge, pine-sol disinfectant, ......something it reminds you of that most of us can relate to heh? Pine: pine needles when you rub them between your fingers, a noble Christmas tree, etc. ........ whatever you have in your smell memory bank to help us understand what to expect)
    7) a smoke report if you can: type of high to expect, taste, smell, how smoked: vaped, rolled, water and glass, etc.
    8) anything you can give to us so we know what to expect after 2 months of pain-staking anticipation...


    I'm sure you can see that I/we do not want a CHEESE SKUNK, ETC. strain here as the idea is a stealth grow with a fair amount of "acceptable" plant odor.


    I hope you can give us new growers some of your personal experience with some of your favorite, and maybe not so favorite strains. We look forward to reading your thoughts on your grows.


    Peace. QUB


     
  2. Pineapple express... yes it smells a lot but doesn't smell like weed, somewhere between pineapple and rotten fruit
    Blueberry - same thing, smells sweet.
    Chemdawg fem from Humboldt Seeds, but I might caution with this one. I popped 5 seeds and only one survived a stem rot episode I suffered awhile back. But the one is top shelf smoke and yield and now a prized mother. Not sure if I got a lucky charm pheno or if all Chemdawg smells so little.
     
  3. Hey Olde School....thanks for the input and the recommendation. That's exactly what I'm looking for, so when I want to give a new strain a go, I'll pretty much know what to expect from a grower and tokers first hand experience.


    Had a ? on the Chemdawg input? Are you saying the seeds where not viable to Ur expectations (hell, 1 of 5 poppers @ 20% is pretty pathetic, heh...) but the one U did get to take hold was a very low odor pheno? Just the name "Chemdawg" brings about images of dankness in the dark.


    Peace and puff.
     
  4. Glad to help. About the Chemdawg, awhile back I decided to start some new strains, and ordered a bunch of new varieties. Among other strains were (10) Mosca Seeds C-99BX1 regulars, (5) G-13 Labs C-99 fem's, (5) Humboldt Seeds' Chemdawg Fem, Sannie's Shop Anesthesia and KO-Kush, and some other stuff that went into the refrigerator for later. I dropped both strains of C-99 and the Chemdawg Fem's. at the same time. All the seeds were viable, popped in under two days. So they're in my bubble cloner on a weak solution of GH Flora, growing happy under a 42W CFL, when the stems start collapsing. Stem rot. The only thing that made it through the episode was one Chemdawg fem and one G-13 Labs C99 fem. EVERY FRICKIN' ONE of the Mosca C-99 regulars croaked. So the two survivors went to my mother tanks.
    It was not the seeds. Only thing I did differently, was Sannie's Shop sells some kind of seed inoculant with their little miniature rapid-rooter plug knockoffs. Supposedly some kind of organic shit turd crap piss or maybe really a new miracle treatment. I threw away the mini-rooters and used the inoculant in my regular rapid rooters.
    About the same time as the stems started collapsing, I got this awful blowfly infestation, probably a hundred or more of the big bastards. Indoor sealed grow room, did NOT come from outside. Go figure. Coincidence? Maybe, but I'll never use that stuff again.
    Another possible cause - the rapid rooters I used were older. Not really dried out but they had a slight grey haze on them. Thought it would be OK. That MIGHT have caused the stem rot but would DEFINITELY not have been the cause of the blowfly infestation. I threw the rest of the bag of rapid rooters away. And the rest of the shit turd crap piss inoculant.
    So just to confirm it was one of the two suspect issues, I disinfected my gear, bought a new bag of rapid rooters, and dropped the Sannie's KO-Kush. 100% germination, no stem rot, was a kick ass success (good smoke too!!!).


    I grew out the chemdawg mother and took some clones from it and the C-99. That crop of Chemdawg was amazing. Rock hard buds, frosty as Tony the Tiger, great yielder. The c-99 was a loser for yield. Other rounds of the chemdawg continue to please. It just does not have very much odor when it grows, or even in the jar after a good cure it's not really stinky. Now chemdawg is one of the parentals behind OG-Kush, which I've not grown but I hear IS stinky.


    I would recommend it to anyone. Just ask around if others have had the low odor experience? [​IMG]


     
  5. OS....hey dude (assumption here), thanks so much for taking the time to give me some of Ur history. It is very much appreciated as at the current time and the foreseeable future (4-6 years) I need to work with low odor strains. Number ONE priority for sure as I know you can understand. Bummer on the seed pops and now U know to keep it "Olde School"....[​IMG] form here on out. Always a learning experience.


    Speaking of a learning experience, I just set up an air bubble cloner based on Faye's Coffee can cloner from GC and can be seen here: http://forum.grasscity.com/do-yourself/1127189-fay...
    .....seems the simplest, most discrete (low noise) set up. I'm going to take my first set of clones off a 3 week flower ASH (Arjans Strawberry Haze....low odor and type of meds I want) and I used a water based concoction of alfalfa, EWC, Myco, and kelp as my solution, which is brewing now. I'll cut it in half with water and stick a few clones in to see what happens. Now, the ASH is about an 84 day (12w) finisher and I want to keep my clones in a stunted state for 4-5 weeks, maybe 6 depending upon how the ASH is closing. I can put the clones in a root-bound quart pot to keep the veg under height control if need be, but hope to take the clone to a 1g smartie and put here in my veg box where she has about 18in. before hitting the CFL's (4 x 13w). I'd like Ur input on this idea and setup if I can ask for Ur time? Doable?


    Also, thanks for the input on the new strain; I'll put it on my collection list. I've got about 12 strains in the fridge now, but I like to run this research as it's very relaxing and quite fun. Thanks kindly bro....peace and puff.


     
  6. Yup, Dude here ... nasty, crazy perv, will work for cleavage pic's [​IMG] (GC won't let us use REAL pic's on here, heh heh)
    But your ?'s, totally doable, just a few observations.
    The Folgers' cloner has been making its rounds for a long time, mainly because it works. I use a derivative of that when I pop one or two auto seeds for my little party tent. But my Folgers cloner uses 2" net pots with rapid rooter plugs, holds four of them. But with clone success rates rarely seeing 100%, I use a bigger version for most of my cloning needs. Not that I need that many clones; it's really used to take and hold two clones from each plant of a new strain started from seed. I hold them until I have sexed the plants, culled all but the best male, then hold the remainder until I can pick a winner mother or interesting pheno at the end of the grow.
    This is the only pic I could find of an empty one alongside an RDWC bonsai mother module.It's a 3 gallon / 12 liter module, accepts a 12" airstone (or two) and uses 2" netpots holding a rapid rooter plug for each clone. I like rapid rooters more than air cloning (like in your link) because I am pure hydro, and the rapid rooter plug provides some medium to hold the clone when transplanting them into hydroton to begin veg-ing. It's literally a zero shock transplant every time.



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    Back to your challenge. This is manageable, as I mentioned above I do it everytime I start new strains.
    Clones off a three-week in-flower that's going to go 12 weeks - hmmm. First off, you CAN clone when the plants are in bloom, but not my first choice. If the clones you took are already showing bloom, you are going to need some extra time to get them to switch back to vegetative growth. It can be done with fair success, but I have found more rooting success when I take the clone at the end of veg, just before switching to bloom. They root quicker and at a higher per-clone success rate. But work with what you got, just take more clones than you need & plan to lose a couple.
    So 12 weeks minus three, you got 9 weeks to hold clones, it's going to take two, even up to three weeks to root. After that, keep them under a 23W CFL (actual wattage) with a brooder reflector or clip-on shop light reflector with low nutes. They will start growing, just prune them back like a miniature version of a plant in veg (which is what they have become by this stage). The key is not too much light, and just enough nutrients to keep them looking healthy but not going crazy. Plan B, if you need it, just whack them in half, right above a node, and you will have effectively done an early topping. Two top leaders to start ain't bad.
    About your tea, I'm not too sure about that for cloning OR holding in a bubbler. While it's a reasonable starting additive list for jump starting your dirt for an organic dirt grow, organic additives aren't the best to use work in hydro. Which a bubble cloner is hydro. The alfalfa and kelp can cause slime issues when your working without a dirt medium.
    EWC? Not familiar.
    Myco's - save them for later, you need roots for the myco's to have something to "infect" (said in a good way for myco infestations) so hey are not good as a rooting stimulant. You can treat your dirt in advance, but even then you need root structure (like left behind from a previous grow in the same dirt?) for them to take hold. Myco's and hydro? My court's still out on that. Some great growers swear by them from veg on into several weeks' bloom, but I'm still holding court on that.

    Really, for starting clones, all you need is 100% water. Most prefer that. But once again, I'm not "most". I have found that a very weak hydro nute solution (1/4 teaspoon each of General Hydroponics' Flora Grow, Micro & Bloom nutrients, per gallon) keeps the clone leaves from suffering nitrogen narcosis, ESPECIALLY on the slower rooting varieties that go toward three weeks instead of 10-14 days. And they root just as fast, maybe better.
    The same nute mix can be used to hold your clones as well. Only time I increase from 1/4 tsp./gal. X 3 is when I'm growing mothers. Then I increase the mix to 1/2 tsp. X 3.
    One additive I DO swear by for cloning is SuperThrive. 1 mL (20 drops) per gallon. It may cloud your water slightly but no worries. It is an excellent rooting stimulant among other things.

    So that should get you there. Hold the clones in the bubbler until you're ready to transplant. Just untangle the roots frequently, and don't be afraid to root prune them either. Formula is if you remove 50% of top material, you can remove the same percentage of root without affecting the plant's viability. That about does it, let me know if you have more questions.
     
  7. Hey man.....wow, thanks for taking all the time for the help. You have a very clean and cool clone setup there. Very nice indeed! This is my 1st grow and setup and it has been a learning curve run for the most part. So, what ever I get for yield will be good for me as long as it is a success, then I'm good. My setup HAS to be in a bedroom closet (literally), so my grow tent has dimensions of 18 x 36 x 50 in. and I need to grow strains that are both stealthy, and can handle the higher temps (~78-91f) and humidity (~40-65%, I have a small dehumidifier I can put in the tent to control this) during the mid-west summer months. So, I just can't plop in some Kush Indica that reeks throughout my apartment complex, and I have to be able to maintain the strains I do grow in environmentally stable conditions. It's tricky, but a whole lot of enjoyable fun too. GC and folks like you have given me the right formulas to be successful right out of the gate so far. This is Gail, my ASH (Arjan Strawberry Haze), and she is responding well to her bondage and she sits in a 3g smartie, which I hope will help me keep her under the LED. I built a no-till, organic soil because I felt it would be the least expensive in the long run ( yeah, I've got a real sad story on my life and it would make a grown man cry....but, I want to move forward so here I am with pretty empty pockets and a will to make this grow work for many years) and I have some great organic resources around me. So it just made a ton ($$$) of sense to go the soil route, and she seems to be diggin' (pun...lol) it. Besides, once it's set up it is extremely low maintenance. BTW....EWC is Earth Worm Castings and is the primary source of microbes for the organic soil. Most guys have an earth worm farm of some sort, but I have a local source that has primo castings, so one less thing I have to setup.


    Well, I pulled one clone off her underbelly and may get a few more soon, but I don't want to take much off her as the haze is a more airy bud and the more I remove to clone test, the less yield I'll have. And becuz she is a 12-14 weeker, I want as much as she'll give this first run, if all goes well. Then I'll know what to expect for next summer and how the ASH responds to the current environmental conditions. I have a few years to go/grow in these conditions then I plan to move out to Colorado Springs and prepare to die there with a nice mountain view.
    The cloner is a future experiment setup to make sure that once I grow a pheno I enjoy, I am ready to run it a few times to keep some top shelf meds on hand. So, thank you so much for the detailed map and each grow I will take some samples and work with them until I have a good percentage results. Grow and learn, learn and grow, this is how we go....hiho, hiho. Go ahead, take those lyrics and work em' buddy.



    Keep in touch and link me to any grows U got going....peace and puff bro.




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  8. For me the least smelling strain I've grown so far is Short Stuff Seeds - #1 (northern lights/williams wonder)


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    I had alot of company come over during that grow and no one noticed anything lol

     
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  9. Thanks microryder! Good info.... What are the strain specs? Auto, fem, reg? Your girl looks fairly short, also good for me, what did she yield for you?
     
  10. Hmmm, bedroom closet... tent ... this could compound your challenge with heat. Frankly, for a closet grow, I would skip the tent. With a simple closet grow you can use panda film draped down from the ceiling to form a 4th wall & keep your light contained. Let the inside walls and the closet door be your other three walls.
    Either way, I would NOT recommend putting the dehumidifier IN the closet, and ESPECIALLY in the tent. A dehumidifier is actually quite similar to a window air conditioner working in reverse. The cooling fins inside the unit are way colder than the ambient air so any moisture in the air condenses and drains to a container. But if you've ever walked past the outdoor portion of a window A/C you get the idea how much heat is generated by the process. And with an indoor unit, the heat stays in your room.
    The best / cheapest / easiest way to handle humidity in your grow area is with good strong ventilation from an air conditioned room. You can dehumidify the room you are pulling air FROM, but try to keep the closet / dehumidifier separate. Whatever you do, you need to get as much air transfer into / out of the closet as possible to avoid heat buildup.
    You said apartment. The most effective way to exhaust heat is to vent out the ceiling of the closet, into the attic. Yeah, requires a hole... fix it before you move out. Not that complicated. Assuming you are in a top floor apartment area with an attic, otherwise you got to exhaust out one closet door & let passive air replacement come in the other door. But whatever air gets exhausted, it needs to be through a carbon filter.
    OK, so you're going all organic, I get it. You're gonna be one of those funny dudes who likes to play with worm poop and bat do-do. Totally completely funny and not that serious when I say that, to each his own. But my organic days ended when I graduated from outdoor to indoor many years ago. If you start your soil a few months ahead of your grow & give it a chance to "cook" before your grow starts you should be fine. It's just that, all that dirt around is ... well ... dirty [​IMG]
    Only other recommendation I can make to help you with a closet grow is to have a double-cover plan for water runoff. A good heavy mil plastic or tarp on the floor saves wonders. Saucers under each container are a small stopgap but they really don't catch enough runoff to be worth a shit. The best solution is at Home Depot, they sell a heavy duty concrete mixing pan formed from heavy injection molded plastic, that's about 2' X 3', maybe a little bigger. They are 8 - 10" deep, big enough to hold a couple of plants, and damned near indestructible. They will keep runoff 100% under control, and are very cheap too. All good for you.


    Final tidbit on the sad luck story & empty pockets. Get a student credit card, get what you need, and do it right. Within three months you will be saving enough from buying weed to pay off the bill. Help your credit too [​IMG]


    OK, keep me posted, be seeing ya' around the Forum


     
  11. Hey OS...how U doing? Well, thanks for the insightful thoughts again, and I will consider them all. Yep, I'm set up and running a Arjan Strawberry Haze as my first run. And, also have my poop piles [​IMG]cooked for 3-4 months and so far on the ASH, it's been water only....cool. I open the tent most of the lights on period, as close it up for about 4 hours before light out. During that period the temps can get to about 91 f with humidity about 52% ( 2nd day after watering...day of watering = ~60%), without running the humidifier. If I run the humidifier, the temps move down to about 87 f, and the humidity moves to about 60%. I'm running my carbon scrubber 24/7 and most of the time the closet doors are open for air flow, and I push fresh air into the bedroom with a big floor fan. Like right now, temp is 80.4 w/ 52%, so it's ok. The only time I think I need to worry is when I close up the closet and bedroom door for the 4 hours before lights out (off to work time).


    I'll just have to wait and see how things turn out here. Ultimate long term plan (4-5 years) is to move from this local out to Colorado Springs, as I want to die near the mountains. So, this time invested will give me the experience to be a solid grower when the environment is optimal, as opposed to the major challenge I face now.


    Here is Gail so far, she is just starting her 3rd week from the flip. Also, I did a major HST (supercrop) and LST on her yesterday ad grabbed 2 more cuttings for the CCCloner. They look good so far....I'll keep ya posted on both....thanks for all the help man. Peace.


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  12. Here are a few pics of my veg/cloner box. So far so good.....test, test, test....Higher temps/humidity in my flower tent also require me to run strains more conducive to the tropical southern hemisphere. Just gotta keep at it.....
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  13. I grow in a pc case so im always lookong for a short strain.

    Lowryder 2 / SS#1 both auto fem'd. The SS1 19g & LR2 7 lol

    See more here:
    http://forum.grasscity.com/index.php?/topic/1382566-PCGrow---LED,-12/12-from-seed
     
  14. Stay away from skunk breeds. Blue mystic is a very low odor strain
     
  15. Thanks Piff...yeah, I think skunk and dank are out at this time.... Not sure about something like a blue cheese? What can I expect from that strain? Thanks...
     
  16. Prolly smelly man. There are a bunch of threads like this if you Google search. Good luck
     
  17. If you find a good strain that gives you a good buzz and doesn't smell...you let me know! LOL After trying several strains, I've yet to find one that didn't smell to high heaven. Luckily, where we live, the smell isn't a concern. We can actually sit back and breathe it in and count it as perfume....until we have company!! LOL
     
  18. Well....not sure about the buzz yet, but I'm running the Green House Arjan Strawberry Haze and I'm at day 30 of ~84 of flower and she does not smell anything at all like weed. For me, a requirement and I know there are many strains that produce this "lack of weed" smell and I'm just gathering the info for my future grows. Until I can relocate in the future, then I can grow whatever I want....thanks for the info. Peace
     
  19. Yeah, I know....but not as much fun to meet and greet, like here....[​IMG]
     
  20. turns out my bagseed so far is even less smelly than anything ive grown before lol. How you been man?
     

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