So now that things are getting more underway with next year's election and with several articles being released on each candidate's stance on legalization, what do you guys think will happen after we get a new president in office? I think it's in the back of everyone's mind (especially those working in the industry) that it's a possibility that the next president will crack down on the legal states and try to destroy the progress that's been made. We know for sure that Chris Christie and Marco Rubio would do that if either of them became president, and there are others that don't have a friendly attitude towards it as well. What 2 candidates do you guys think next year's election will come down to? I'm interested to see what will happen, especially because there will probably be more states that will legalize in that election as well.
I think that a lot of the candidates, at least on the GOP, would have the DEA go back to the previous enforcement. One of the key facts is that states like Colorado and Washington are making a boat load of cash from taxing marijuana. A side effect of this is that states will be very reluctant to lower taxes on weed. I think that the GOP will likely have Jeb Bush, and the democrats may end up with Hillary. Hillary may face a lot of competition from Sanders. She is probably two moderate for the current democratic party, hence the competition from Sanders, but may end up winning just because Sanders is not willing to have superpacs. The GOP nomination is likely to end up being a big mud slinging match through the news and attack ads. Trump has money and is able to sling the mud, but he has a thin skin. Bush has a premade political machine, the most campaign financing, and the most PACs. I would not worry about Christie, since the US has not elected a really overweight person since Taft because of superficial way television works. Marco Rubio looks better on TV, but does not have the connections Bush has.
A similar narrative will continue. The economies are already in place for legalization states, and enforcement against sales will not change the laws against personal use cultivation and possession in those states, so the enforcement will only hurt taxes and regulated types of sales. Weed dealers and illegal growers in those legal states would flourish. The candidates are pre-chosen for you by the man behind the curtain, so don't expect much to change. Any illusion that someone will radically "change" and turn things around has already been shown to be absurd. Look at the "change" Obama created - which wasn't really anything at all of any substance.
No candidate is their own man. ALL are controlled by banksters who control the military, health care industry, Con Agri, and of late moving to control water Until we the people get rid of those who pull the strings we can expect more death and more planetary destruction. If they wanted it any other way, they have the power to do so Our vote hasn't mattered, long before W stole the election from Gore, not that he was any better, but they did so right in our faces
One thing the federal government can not do is force the states to enforce their prohibition. So even if the feds were to crack down on retail sellers/growers, they do not have the resources to go after small home grows and possession charges. As to the candidates being controlled by the man, I agree except for Trump. He has enough of his own money that he doesn't have to play their game. I while I love his "in his head, out his mouth" soundbites, I don't think he would make a good president.
Yeah I agree that most GOP candidates would probably crack down on the industry, even Ben Carson who's supposedly a genius and a renowned expert in the medical field was saying that he would send the DEA after recreational marijuana, but has support for medical marijuana. But he was stating the same BS propaganda about cannabis that has been said for years. He was calling it a gateway drug and said that making it legal would be harmful for the youth. It's surprising that someone who is such a genius in the medical world quotes the same reefer madness hysteria that's been repeated for years. I have a feeling it'll end up being Jeb Bush too, he has a ton of money and he even said its more than any other candidate has had for a campaign. I'm not worried about Christie at all, he's polling at 1% support for the nomination. I think Rubio is more concerning, but I have a feeling that he won't have what it takes to get the nomination, and Scott Walker even said that Jeb has more campaign money than him and Rubio combined. Jeb has a lot of connections in the GOP and he has the Bush name behind him, something Rubio doesn't have. Who knows what will happen with Trump, he could maintain all of this momentum or he could crash and burn. I would prefer Bernie Sanders over Hillary, but who knows if he'll be able to get the nomination. I don't think Hillary would send the Feds after the industry, but Jeb might even though he said that he thinks states should have the right to do it. He's involved with the drug free america foundation, so it's anyone's guess.
I have a feeling that'll end up happening too, the fear of all the progress made being undone by the next president just sits in the back of my mind. I read an article in Forbes awhile back that pretty much said the same thing that you did. They created a scenario where the next president did send the DEA after the legal states, and they showed that doing that would do nothing but create a political headache because of the same reasons that you just said. They can't force these states to repeal all of the provisions of legalization, so cracking down would just cause the black market to skyrocket because it'll still be legal to grow and possess, plus the states will lose all of their tax revenue. These idiot politicians who oppose it need to realize that cracking down on legal/medical states won't accomplish anything and will just waste time and money.
I agree, and it would just make the black market bigger than it ever was before. As far as Trump goes, who knows if he'll be able to keep up this momentum around him, or if he'll crash and burn.
Donald Trump is another con man - another part of the American Idol crew reality TV show we call the 2016 presidential election.Trump loves this system that he got rich off of. He's showing himself like he's some sort of "anti-establishment" or "not part of the system" a lot like Obama did before the 2008 elections. Even if his intentions are true, the system is already in place where not much can be done on his part. If he steps too far out of line, they will just do a "character assassination" and / or the media will run him over, like they did with Ron Paul in past elections, whether you agreed with his positions or not. Same applies to Sanders. I knew this election was going to be another sham - but I wasn't exactly prepared for another Bush vs. Clinton showdown. We're still ruled by kings and queens. Actually, a feudal system might be a bit better than this bankster plutocracy that we have now.
I think that if Rubio and Bush had the same amount of cash, that Rubio would probably beat Bush because Bush is seen as a moderate amongst the GOP. Rubio also does not like like he dumped his face in a 5 gallon can of makeup when on TV, unlike Ted Cruz. The fact that Jeb has a wife who was born in Mexico will not help him win the almost explicitly racist trump supporters. The fact that his last name is Bush will probably hurt him a lot amongst people outside the GOP. All the GOP candidates are pleading to a group of moral majority religious people for endorsements, many of who still believe firmly in the stuff what was preached in refer madness. The good news is that their power seems to be waning. Sanders is defiantly preferable over Hillary, since then our country would at least look less like a rotating monarchy of Bushes and Cintons.
But Sanders can't win in the general. The traditional election model is for the candidates to move out from the center in the primaries and then back to the center for the general. He won't do that. He is an unapologetic liberal/socialist and he will not move to the center for the general. It would be Reagan/Mondale all over again.
Yeah I think we should all be thankful that Rubio doesn't have the money, resources, or connections that Bush has, otherwise it might be easy for him to get the nomination. Bush's last name might actually hurt him more among voters because a lot of them don't want another Bush, and he's currently not polling very well. In addition to Rubio's hardline stance against marijuana, he's also taken a hardline stance against abortion, saying that it should be completely outlawed even if the pregnancy was caused by rape or incest. That might make a lot of voters not like him as well.
I am hesitant to make any predictions because I was spot on last time around with what I predicted with Mitt and Obama...better to stop and 1-0, quit while i'm ahead... oh to hell with it... I feel like for the most part the GOP hopefuls were groomed to make Jeb Bush look good, although it seems not everyone is in on the joke... I figure the winner will be Jeb Bush and I am gonna guess Hillary is more likely to come out of the other corner than Bernie. between Hillary and Bernie, it'll be a tossup. will the narrative change based solely on who is our next president? not likely...Congress is wising up, more people are realizing its inevitable and even LAUGHING at people who stick to the old, FICTIONAL script. If they do try and send the DEA after state-legal ops, the states WILL sue back and force a SCOTUS intervention...which will likely rule that given the scientific evidence the fed HAS to legalize it for medical use at a minimum...and give states the absolute right to go rec if they desire. nobody will want to FORCE a hand like that. This is all assuming of course that congress doesn't willingly reschedule cannabis before BOs successor takes office in 2017, in which case even if Christie or Rubio were elected it'd be like "oooh, what was that bitch? enforce that federal medical marijuana law you cheeseburger eating son of a bitch! AND PUT ON A DAMN SHIRT RANDY!".
I think Hillary is done. This email controversy is not going to go away and now that the mainstream press has started covering it, more things will come to light. I expect Biden or Warren to jump in by the end of September.
after the elections, I predict the massive losses of republican seats will trigger a lot of cry's of voter fraud and demands for recounts, NJ's CC will rampage and eat some schoolkids and force the National Guard to put him down, Trump will sue the people that didn't vote for him, cats and dogs be living together, business owners will go crazy and increase wages, total chaos will ensue according to FAUX News (and their tea chugging extremist ilk)...it will waste a lot of time and tax payer dollars until the newly elected people move into power and get busy trying to do something constructive about Marijuana Scheduling so the nation can have share a bong and get along..and that other stuff with the economy/austerity/disparity thingamajigger could be looked at... ..but, there is always another choice...
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I agree completely she is done and for good reason... she's is fucking terrible for a lot of reasons but the biggest one is i hate her fucking face... she has one of those faces that you just wanna punch. She is such a fucking snarky lying bitch I really can't stand her. I really hope she goes to prison for that shit. On topic I think legalization is inevitable no matter who is elected. The people want it and it's starting to become enough people where politicians aren't going to be able to ignore it. The movement is real and only picking up steam.
Can you travel to Cuba? How many sitting Presidents have said weed is safer than alcohol? How many previous Presidents have toiled to raise the minimum wage? Unemployment levels rival Clinton days, no change? Do you live in a bubble? This man is a breath of fresh air compared to Bush and his rein of terror..
The travel restriction on Cuba is still in place. Most of the new jobs are in the lower income bracket, and the overall standard of living has been on the decline. The minimum wage is still $7.25. The rest of the reasons (as well as others previously said) that you've listed are due to extreme social and economic pressure. In reality, the federal policy on weed is still the same. Under his administration, the DEA has performed more MJ raids than Bush could've ever imagined, and those in charge have been some of the most hostile. The change has been through the state level, otherwise it's likely we would be in the same situation that the UK is in, where the government doesn't bulge and the laws and prohibition rhetoric stays the same towards marijuana. The wars, our bankster owned system, and "business as usual" continues, aside from the superficial rhetoric. It's great he pulled the wool over your eyes, though... as if he's really that much in control of things. Under the same idea, I could vote for Chris Christie since he himself has acknowledged the war on drugs as a "complete failure", but his words and actions mean two different things.