Molasses

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  1. #1 Agter, Aug 13, 2015
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    Hello there! Got 2 plants, 3 weeks old.
    I feed them with a local gardening shop fertilizer once a week. I heard it's good to feed the plants with molasses, 1tsbp every gallon EVERY watering.


    Is it ok to use about any molasses, or does it need to have certain specifications?
    I am about to use sugar cane molasses, but would like some input on this (it's a first grow, and would really be sad to kill the plants).


    Woha, just got lots of information.. Check posts below for information.. VALUABLE ONE AT THAT.

     
  2. I entered this thread because I had no idea what a 'molasse' is, I leave this thread as clueless as I entered.
    Good luck to you and your molasses.
     
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  3. #3 Agter, Aug 13, 2015
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    LOL.. Sorry for laughing, but the way you put was funny [​IMG]
    Well, simply put, molasses is an ingredient, in terms of culinary. It is used (at least in my country) to bake and cook some sorts of meals. It is rich in sugar, and is said to be quite productive when applied correctly to soil.


    I will quote a post from a different website (PM me, if you want the original thread).
    "It feeds the micro organisms in the soil, the plant does not take it up as is, the molecules are too big to be absorbed by the roots. After the micro organisms break it down, THEN it is absorbed."


    Also this:
    "The molasses only feed your microorganisms in the soil which then break down and make avalible the nutrients in your soil. If you growing hydro it wont do anything for your plant itself."


    and this:
    "Molasses is a polysaccharide or simple sugar. It is used to feed all the beneficial microbes living in the soil. these beneficial microbes increase the availability of nutrients mostly used during the flowering period for most plants. Molasses is not needed unless used to feed the soil micro herd, it has no effect on flavor. Sulfur on the other hand is responsible for flavor and smell characteristics."


    Oh, this is encouraging...:
    "Once broken down some of that sugar is passed onto the plants. We did an experiment one time with two different runs both runs were with clones from the same mother plant. The first run got the same nutes with no molasses and the second run we added molasses. The buds from the second run came out more sticky and crystaly then the first run. Just don't over do it with molasses or you can really affect the soils PH."


    Thanks, The Stud. I started by asking and got to the point of replying to my own question.


    More information on this..:
    Wikipedia link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molasses#Horticultur...
    Some of the quotes are from this thread: http://forum.grasscity.com/indoor-medical-marijuan...
     
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  4. More cookies (copypasta):
    Cheap, easy and does it all!
    Not your kitchen molasses! Horticulture Molasses does things for your plants like nothing else can and it's the cheapest gardening product per square foot…a gallon can cover a half-acre. Put it in a sprayer, turn some music on and start spraying every inch of your yard, no need to be careful. You simply can't over do it, but you get to the point of deminishing returns. Molasses can kill insects andcauses a massive bloom of microbes in the soil. It also drives out Fire Ants. It will NOT make your plants sticky.
    Sweeter plants?
    Sugars are how plants store energy for rainy days and winter hibernation. So, why is this important to you as a gardener? Aside from basically giving your plants a power boost, you are stopping bugs. “What?” you ask. Yes, it stops bugs. Insects are very simple creatures. They can only feed within a narrow window of sugar content. When the sugar content of plants is raised, insects can't feed on them. They take one bite and move on.
    The second way molasses controls insects, is by being directly ingested by the insect. What most people don't know is that only Sugar Ants and bees can process the simplest sugars. Insects have no way of expelling the gas that builds up from fermenting sugar and the vegetation in their gut (draw your own mental pictures please). Plus, they have exoskeletons and can't get bloated. Their delicate internal organs are crushed from the inside out. All a bug needs to do, is walk through or try to feed on a molasses covered plant. Insects are constantly cleaning themselves. They will try to lick the molasses off their feet and swallow it. If they take a bite of a molasses coated plant, they will swallow it.
    Microbial bloom and Fire Ants
    These two things seem unrelated. Microbes and specifically bacteria consume simple sugars (which is why your momma made you brush your teeth). When soil born microbes are exposed to simple sugars, their numbers can double in just 30 minutes. As microbes go through their life cycle, they add organic matter and micro nutrients to the soil, improving the soil and making nutrients more available to your plants. Regularly applying molasses to your soil and plants greatly improves the quality of the soil over time. Soils with high microbial activity are easier to dig in and stays moist longer.
    So, about the Fire Ants…since it seems that the big universities can't make money studying the effects of molasses on Fire Ants…they don't do any research on the subject. But, it has been proven that molasses makes Fire Ants pack up their mound and migrate to your neighbor's yard. It may be that the bloom of microbes, irritates the little stinkers. It could be that they are running from a specific microbe. It could be that they just hate sugar (they eat mostly protein which is why you can turn a greasy over baked pan upside down over a Fire Ant mound and they will clean it for you). What ever the reason, applying molasses to your yard, makes them leave.
    Adding it up…
    If you're crunched for time and money, molasses is the answer to a lot of your gardening problems. The benefits are undeniable, your yard will smell great and you get to feel good about letting your kids and pets play in the yard. Whether you choose dry molasses (applied to soy chaff) or the liquid (which is cheaper to use), molasses is the single best thing you can do for your soil and plants. This is one customer's story. He came in asking about fertilizer for his hay field. He was tired of expensive bags of chemicals and wanted to look at other alternatives. We talked for a while and he decided to run a test for himself. He applied the old stuff on half the field, because he had some left over and molasses on the other half. He came back some months later and told me that his neighbors were pulling in to ask what he had used. The molasses side was 6 inches taller and greener. He swore to me that nothing else was changed.
     
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  5. Use unsulphured blackstrap molasses
     
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  6. You are very welcome :p
    That was my intention all along.. well, maybe it wasn't, but let's pretend it was eyh :3
     
  7. #7 jwhardy21, Aug 21, 2015
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    Agter, you gave the greatest self response on molasses I've ever seen.
    I know a lot about molasses, and a lot of people misuse it. Regular use throughout the grow is ideal, and it is extremely difficult to add too much to your soil. Wholesome Sweeteners makes a blackstrap molasses that contains nearly 7 times the amount of (organic) potassium than Grandma's Molasses. This won't burn your plants, though, any quicker than Grandma's, but rather increase nutrient uptake through increased water efficiency, and defend against pests and diseases.
    One thing Agter didn't mention is that molasses usually contains both calcium and magnesium, reducing the need for Cal/Mag supplementation, potentially altogether depending on which brand you choose and your dosage.
    I don't want to take away the emphasis on the microbial activity that molasses aids in, as I see this as the most beneficial part of molasses. Once again, regular use will keep the microbes flourishing.
    1 tablespoon per gallon every watering shouldn't hurt your plants in any way, however, it doesn't take much molasses to increase microbial life. That being said, I find regular use to be of more importance than a higher dose.
    My two cents, peace
     
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  8. I use it and epson salt for cal mag
     
  9. I've heard of Epsom salt being used as a Cal/Mag supplement, but, from what I understand, it contains zero calcium, just magnesium. Magnesium acts as a catalyst for nutrient uptake, including calcium. The actual content of calcium in your soil will not directly increase.
    I use molasses for Cal/Mag, and it has been great. It is very rare for me to add any extra calcium or magnesium.
     
  10. I picked this up today for $15
     

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  11. Thanks for this! I want those 8 ft girls next year.
     
  12. its been working in my plants just make sure you get the unsulphured molasses
     
  13. That's awesome I have a shit ton of red ant hills around my patch gunnar pour that shit all over them
     
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  14. Wouldn't spraying the plant just cause
    other bugs and animals to be attracted to it?
     
  15. They are porn pictures of mole asses takes all kinds I guess.
     
  16. E S has sulfur in it to plants love it.
     
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