If no one knew what a scrog was the topic title would sound dirty... Anyway I've been scroging these plants for a while now and I just flipped them over to 12/12 5 days ago. I trimmed about half a shopping bag worth of fan leaves covering bud sites on the first day of flower and that's about all I've done. Last night I also cut off some of the lower branches that won't ever reach the screen (only 1-2 small ones per plant).They've already shot up a lot and the scrog is starting to look overgrown: I'm running 3 different strains which I knew would be ridiculous to handle but I couldn't get 6 good clones of the same strain. What should I do in this situation? I've read that trimming should be done before flowering and I've read that its ok to do during flowering. I've read that you can trim the fan leaves and I've read that you should only bend them over if they're blocking bud sites and only trim growth under the screen because fan leaves are solar panels for your plants and trimming fan leaves can shock the plant and stunt the growth. I've also read not to trim at all. Basically I want to figure out a way to maximize the light getting to all the bud sites and clean it up so its not such an eye sore without stressing my plants too much and decreasing my yields. I've been bending fan leaves lately and honestly there is no good way to bend them without blocking something else. Only thing I can say for sure is they're some strong plants. I made some hot cocoa from the first time I trimmed and I was useless for about 16 hours
Looking real good man. The fan leaves store energy for the plants, so when you can avoid trimming them, it does help. When it comes to scroging, a lot of small branches and leaves recieve very little light and are basically a wasted stop for nutrient uptake. I usually trim a good amount under the screen, this also helps with better air flow to avoid mold.
Sounds like alot of plant under there. I scrog and remove some leaves. I try and stick to the oldest but it does get messy. I keep it real clean under the net. But I do remove some above without problems. .
I had these four under here for about a week or so until I knew they were female. This is how it filled out after week 2 of flower This was taken yesterday. I started with six under there but two turned male. My screen is 24"x36". The plants are on day 28 of flower and are about as tall as they're going to get. Your screen is going to get busy
^^^^^ that's a support net more then a scrog grow. It looks like he could of fit alot more plant under there. Depending on which strains I'm running and how much stretch they go threw I fill my nets 80-100% before flipping to flower. That means each square has a bud site. To scrog those branches would have been pulled down allowing the plant to grow horizontally. Allowing them to grow straight threw the net without filling it is a support net. That net looks about 50% or less of the squares have bud sites. If my nets arent filled completly during veg, keep tucking until the stretch of flower is over. A little bit more time spent filling that net could of increased his yeild drastically. That's the point of a scrog. Never put plants under a net unless you know they are female. I only use clones in my scrogs
Totally agree I could have spread the plants out more. Do you continue to tuck your plants under the screen until they are done with the stretch? I stopped once the bud sites formed.
those plants don't appear to have ever been tucked under. If they had been they would have grown horizontally along under the net getting tangled up in the net as opposed to growing straight threw. In order to fill that size net it needed tucked in veg until the net was full or almost full. Knowing how much your strain stretched in flower helps to know when to flip to 12/12. But you were no where close for a scrog grow. Don't get me wrong you did a nice job getting the branches separated to allow light to the buds. The exact same thing could of been done with some lst though without a net taking up space and being wasted by not being filled. Allowing more room for plants, equipment or just open space. I'm not sure you quite understand the concept of scrog. Scrog means screen of green. In other words the screen is solid green. I prefer 2 inch squares in my netting. So every 2 inches there's a bud site. 11 squares X 11 squares= 122 bud sites in just under a 2'x2' area( don't remember exact measurement). I usually fill damn near every one. Keep pulling everything under until they are. I would of kept tucking those under for quite awhile. Each of those stems would of had several other stem branching out. As you bend youre plant over other bud sites will start growing faster. Branches will start growing in all directions. Move the fastest growing ones towards the furthest points of youre net. The other branches will grow and fill in the rest. How organized it is under the net is up to you. But it does become a big entangled mess under there until its allowed to grow threw. Yours just appears to have been allowed to grow straight threw. It takes longer to scrog compared to how you grew it but the yeild makes up for the added time. You could of easily had 2-4 times as much final weight if you would have filled it. Maybe another 2-3 weeks of veg is all I would of took if I had to guess. But that extra time would have been so worth it. Patience man. The top pic is what it looks like a few days after allowing it to grow threw. The bottom pic is a little bit before flipping. When I flipped there was a bud site in all those squares.
Here's the underside. Like I said a scrog becomes an entangled mess. I don't keep things as organized as I used to but the yeild doesn't suffer Once further in flower it will damn near be solid. That's why I lightly defoliate.
its a fun way too grow and a great way to fully utilize your space. Lays everything out nice and flat, keeping that canopy even. You don't have to invest a bunch of time and supplies are cheap. I build 2'x4' screens for around $12 with enough left over supplies to almost build another. Minus a few feet of pvc which is cheap. Check it out sometime.
3/4" PVC, braided masons line ( twisted is weaker frays and stretches alot more I'm a mason trust me I know mason line), PVC glue, small screws to weave the line around. For larger ones 1" PVC. There's 2 different grades of PVC. It has to do with the thickness of the plastic. I like the stiffer grade so it doesn't have as much give. Either will be fine though. Especially on smaller screens like were talking about. The stiffer stuff, if its available, will have a smaller inside diameter because of the thicker plastic.