Need Help Start flush?

Discussion in 'Growing Marijuana Outdoors' started by wwmen, Aug 4, 2015.

  1. So can i stop feeding and give just water? Is the lady pretty? Almost 7 weeks and The seedbank says its a white widow with 55days flowering time. Hope for help bro's.

     

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  3. Very nice! I grow White Widow too and yes, 55 days is correct. Of course, the longer you let it go, the stronger it's going to get. So, if you can leave it past 55 days and let it mature a bit more, it'll be even more potent when cured out. Some flush before harvest, some don't. I don't. I talked to a lot of very experienced grower friends who have done it both ways and couldn't get anybody to prove any major difference. I am one who does not give a ton of chemicals to my plants though, and flushing is done in an effort to rid the plant of chemicals. It's not going to hurt the plant, so flush if you want to. Do it at 3:1 gals water/gals container size with the last gallon going through being properly pH'd. Then give pH'd water from then till pull day. Nice job! TWW
     
  4. Ok bro thanks for the good answer. I hope take 5/6 ozS from the girl 😃😃😃. :D


    I will give to her more 2 weeks but just water.


    Cheers broo
     
  5. It looks like you have an equally nice crop of Mites, Thrips and most likely caterpillars if your not spraying weekly for them..
    Get a 15 or 30X loupe if you can't see them with the naked eye.. All that speckling on your leaves is insect damage more then likely.. If you don't have and use an IPM here is mine..
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    If your growing outside your going to need an IPM ( integrated pest management ) routine.. This one is mine..
    BT bacillus thuringiensis.. Caterpillar control.. sold under several names
    Safer = http://www.hydroponics.net/i/132569
    Bonide = http://www.territori...CFQaBfgodk0UAug
    Garden Safe = http://www.gardensaf...2845931900.ashx
    Monterey = http://www.domyownpe...-bt-p-2821.html?
    Green Light = https://www.google.c...=2&ved=0CHkQuiQ
    Green Cure.. For Powdery Mildew control.. https://www.1000bulb...earchButton.y=0
    Neem oil.. For spider mites, thrip, helps with the caterpillars too but don't use once you start to flower..
    http://www.homedepot...googleads-_-pla
    http://www.gardensaf...2845931795.ashx
    Spinosad as my change up hitter.. So things don't get resistant.. https://www.1000bulb...SUN-704606.html?
    Captian Jacks = http://www.hydrogala...CFQphfgodNUsADw
    BT-I as mosquito dunks and bits for Fungal Gnats... [​IMG]

    To avoid the sprayer contamination issue I had last year I simply bought 4 sprayers
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    Most all of this can be found at Home Depot or Lowes except the Green Cure.. Hydro shop for that..
    Buy a new sprayer and rinse really well between solutions or buy multiple sprayers like I did..
    I do my treatments like any good farmer.. up well before dawn
    Spray BT on Monday..
    Green Cure on Tuesday
    Neem on Wednesday.. Only in veg
    Spinosad Thursday
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    Pimp T, on 12 May 2015 - 8:13 PM, said:
    hey coot how does the whole "flushing" soil thing apply to the Clackamas coot mix? What are your thoughts on flushing LOS? Should aloe silica coconut water ful power and SST watering stop 2 weeks prior to harvest?
    Here's the most recent answer that I gave to this question a couple of weeks ago....
    Chlorophyll b is the 'type' found in plants as we're defining it. Other structures are found in algae, cyanobacteria, et al.
    Here is the molecular formula - C55H70O6N4Mg so we're looking at 55 Carbon ions, 70 Hydrogen ions, 6 Oxygen ions, 4 Nitrogen ions and 1 Magnesium ion. All 6 forms of chlorophyll have one consistent dynamic, i.e. a single Magnesium ion. Not two, not three - one. So much for the mythology about magnesium-hungry plants or worse in the wacky weed world where specific 'strains' can be magnesium-hungry. Looking at just chlorophyll b a better myth would be carbon-hungry or hydrogen-hungry and maybe even oxygen-hungry and nothing to do with magnesium.
    My understanding of this worst example of stoner science is that by dumping copious amounts of water somehow water with it's simple H2O formula is able to reach up from the root zone then into a plant's vascular system and deconstruct a fairly complex molecule - that must be some really unique water indeed!
    In a dynamic called translocation plants can and do move materials from leaves to other tissues - that is established botany. Plants produce carbohydrates (sugars) in the leaves by photosynthesis but non-photysynthetic parts of the plant also require carbohydrates and other organic and nonorganic materials. It's for this reason that nutrients are translocated from sources (regions of excess carbohydrates, primarily matures leaves) to what are called sinks.
    ?Some important sinks are roots, flowers, fruits, stems and developing leaves. Leaves are particularly interesting in the translocation process because they are sinks when they are young and become sources later when they are about half-grown.
    Carbohydrates are simply Carbon, Hydrogen and Oxygen molecules, i.e. simple sugars.
    So let's say for sake of silliness that flushing can trigger translocation which must be a real threat for rice plants, where are the chlorophyll molecules going? They can't be destroyed because they're elements which cannot be destroyed or changed unless of course we're talking about cannabis which has special properties that negate almost every law of botany, biology, chemistry, physics imaginable.
    My simple question is this: once this special water deconstructs the chlorophyll compound where do the ions go? Into thin air? That would be difficult since Magnesium is a metallic element but again we have to suspend even common sense to shore-up the flushing argument so who knows? Perhaps a special air canopy is created from flushing which can move magnesium around at will.
    Even if water could deconstruct and force translocation of elements doesn't that defeat the purpose in the first place which is claimed that flushing will remove the nasties causing us to not have dank! If the mature leaves are the repository the why would you want to move these ions to the buds which you plan on consuming?
    It's difficult to write this stuff without falling out of my chair with laughter. The argument fails on every level - even common sense.
    Fire away! I'm wearing stainless-steel Fruit of the Loom briefs - I can take it!
    CC

     
  6. All this and that was gone.. what i have its some red mites i used neem oil. But its now in end of flower and i will not give nothing to her. There is no webs just some fucked up leaves.


    Cheers and thnks bro
     
  7. Good Lord. I would go broke buying all those chemicals. If pests are that big a problem, I definitely wouldn't be growing outside where you live. LOL I've grown outside for years here and never had a spider mite or thrips or anything other than a couple of caterpillars I plucked off once. Not sure if it's the punishing heat and humidity we have here in the south, but my pest issues are nonexistent apparently compared to others....THANK GOD! LOL
     
  8. #8 BrassNwood, Aug 5, 2015
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    It's several examples of the same basic BT product.. Same stuff as Dipel it's been used organically against caterpillars for years .. Not a chemical pesticide..
    • Neem oil weekly in veg
    • BT-k for caterpillars
    • Green Cure for powdery mildew
    • Spinosad for Mites, Thrips, white fly and most of the rest of the creepy crawlies.. This is more a backup most of the time.. If I've done my neem oil in veg like I'm supposed to my plants enter flower nice and clean and I rarely have trouble..
    • BT-I as dunks to control fungal gnats..
    That is the big 5 that will cover most of the stuff that can and will attack.. I lost most of my first crop to caterpillars AKA bud worms AKA tobacco moth larva.. At harvest I noticed a few dead buds but the rest looked good so we trimmed it up and hung it to dry..
    Within a few hours I had some catties hanging by silk looking for a fresh home.. Over the next few days that few turned into a flood of catties.. Dozens per hours could be found hanging.. Every time I walked past I'd sweep a few dozen off.. From tiny almost to small to see up to nearly an inch long.. It wasn't till I started to clip the buds from the branches that the real damage showed up.. Every place the catties had munched they also shit.. Every place they shit it molded.. The whole crop was shot through with cattie crap and mold.. In the end I tossed about 90% of that season, about 5 six foot tall plants.. Everything I listed is OMRI (organic materials review institute) approved up to day of harvest.. It's as mild as your going to find and still get the job done.. All short lived they need weekly applications to maintain coverage.. It's mostly just BT and Cure weekly to insure a clean crop.. I run a bug zapper and this time of year it's jammed with moths.. Even spraying I'll find an occasional cattie.. Southern Calif is bud worm and Powdery Mildew heaven but I get 360 sunny low humidity days outside a year to grow in.. All that free sunlight is well worth a bit of effort on my part to keep it clean.. BNW
     
  9. Wow....I'm SO glad I don't live where you do. LOL I have had problems like that with tomato worms in the past. We generally do a fairly large garden with a large portion of it dedicated to tomatoes which we can and put up for use in the winter months. Every year about this time, we get walloped with tomato worms. They come at us like the caterpillars do you. I guess we're all faced with our own special challenges, huh? I wasn't trying to be a smart butt with my reply either...it just kind of struck me funny when I looked at it originally and I'm sure I was probably high...and we all know that makes you look at things in a different way. LOL. Happy Friday and hope you have a wonderful weekend!! TWW
     

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