You libertarians

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Nathan, Jul 31, 2015.

  1. Don't realize big corporate is just as fucked up as big government






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  2. How do you identify op?

    You arrogant people don't realize no one has the answers

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  3. #3 parkster, Jul 31, 2015
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    Isnt every powerful figure at least somewhat corrupt? You have to pull some favors if you want to remain powerful.




    But id rather grow the economy than constrain it.
     
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  4. I've said before that I admire Libertarians for their ethics and principles, but I still believe that total environmental and financial deregulation would be a catastrophe. I'm not sure how putting all the power in the hands of the financiers and polluters would lead to a paradise of upwardly mobile rugged individualism. Just look at the TPP, which is in many ways the legal manifestation of libertarian ideology...That shit is terrifying.
     
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  5. food for thought.

    I'm a libertarian. However, as a libertarian I believe in right to my property (and everyone's else's)

    If a corporation pollutes the air and water, by default it has damaged the property of its neighbors.

    Therefore enviromentalism is not anti libertarian. In fact, our current court system doesn't allow for people harmed by this pollution to sue these corporations even though clealry damages have been done.

    Per the constitution of the united states, citizens do in fact have the right to sue if there are damages; and pollution to air water and soil count as "damages"

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  6. I don't identify as anything really. I voted for Romney, didn't like him though. I just think we're fucked to be honest lol.
     
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  7. Had to search WAY back to find these gems. :)


    Enjoy.


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  8. The world's largest polluter is the Department of Defense/Pentagon. Someone should tell the EPA.... lol
     
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  9. what's up dude? :wave:

     
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  10. Hi there. Long time no talk! [​IMG]


    How goes it?
     
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  11. Long time no see. You were one of my favorite blades. Good to see the Limecat lives! I thought most the greats had left the city.
     
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  12. See below. Libertarians don't like corporations.

     
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  13. yeah dude.. stop being a fucking stranger!
    we need aaronman and spikoli back too!


    all is well here man.. growing pot, enjoying life.. all that sort of thing :)

     
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  14. Do you have a Hillary 2016 bumper sticker on the rear of your Honda Civic?
     
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  15. fixed..
     
  16. Yep! Awww shucks. [​IMG]


    Thanks. I think I'll stick around a while. Kick my feet up and enjoy myself. [​IMG]
     
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  17. Will do!


    For sure, that would be fun. We will have to do for now.


    Great to hear! Jealous. :)
     
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  18. This is assuming that working people would ever have parity of legal recourse with multinationals, which can hire the best lawyers in the world and wait out class action lawsuits that are becoming increasingly difficult to litigate as a claimant due to "frivolous lawsuit" reforms. I'm not sure what magic deus ex machina would ever occur in a supposed totally deregulated world that would enable regular citizens or groups of regular citizens to successfully sue multinationals. Especially in the TPP/Citizens United era, where these entities have already demonstrated the damage they will inflict when given the reigns.
    Our regulatory agencies are totally compromised, for which I blame thirty years of destructive neoconservatism and neoliberalism. I never said the system works as it exists now.
     
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  19. Ha yeah right dude.
     
  20. #20 *ColtClassic*, Aug 6, 2015
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    Modern government is analogous to the Catholic Church at its peak of power.


    Corporations are analogous to the families who wielded the Catholic Church as a means to power.


    In other words, government is the gun, corporations are the hand that manipulate the gun.


    (voters are the hand that reloads the gun).


    In other words, yes, multinational corporations are as corrupt as they come, but government is the highest power in the land and bestows upon itself the right to own, control, destroy, and subvert anything and everything under the sun.

     
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