: Is socialism the solution to the possible incoming economic collapse caused by automation? If not, why?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by ReturnFire333, Jul 22, 2015.

  1. #21 ReturnFire333, Jul 23, 2015
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    Please tell me how people can to work jobs that have been automated, to support your weed wacker argument.



    Also, why is taxation the demonizing aspect of socialism to you, especially when socialist taxation taxes the well off not the needy. Especially when capitalism taxes the fucking needy, Jesus.
     
  2. theft is defined as taking what doesn't belong to you. Taxation is theft in any society.

    You might call me a libertarian socialist

    Don't get me wrong. I'm not saying we shouldn't help people. I'm just saying two wwrongs don't make a right

    -yuri
     
  3. The internet already made it possible to funnel money from the poorest citizens to the richest without everyone in between getting a piece.

    You don't have to build and open thousands of Amazon stores and pay thousands of employees to run them.

    It does make sense that the top 1% is headed towards accumulating virtually all of the wealth in this country and redistribution will be necessary at some point. They won capitalism. What can we do now?
     
  4. Wait, what.




    "Socialism? [​IMG][​IMG]:lol: good one op"



     
  5. Pretty sure your problem would lie more with capitalism more than it would with socialism, following your distain for tax.
     
  6. The disdain for taxation is not in whom is being taxed but that someone is being taxed. Theft is theft no matter whom you are stealing from.
     
  7. what do you think of the rest of the argument now though factoring in automization? Since a year ago you were arguing against supplemental income in another thread I made.
     
  8. #28 ReturnFire333, Jul 23, 2015
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    God the phone app is horrible.
     
  9. #29 ReturnFire333, Jul 23, 2015
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    The big difference here is with automization, the rich and corporations will have LARGE income source while a large portion of middle class and poor workers jobs will be automated. Why should that income NOT be taxed to support the people who lost their jobs, to make the rich MORE money.
     
  10. I don't understand. Are you saying that voluntary transactions are exploitation?

    Do you boycott wallmart? I do.

    -yuri
     
  11. because IRS wrong.

    You have a choice to bring children into poverty. Its not the rich peoples fault.

    Survival of the fittest is far superior than population control

    -yuri
     
  12. Are YOU implying that capitalist tax is voluntary? What... The frig?
     
  13. #33 ReturnFire333, Jul 23, 2015
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  14. #34 ReturnFire333, Jul 23, 2015
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    Automization... of.... jobs.


    Also socialism is not population control, you're spitting baseless ilogical brainwash bullshit, again, and saying "CUZ IT IS" again, with no evidence or logic.
     
  15. ?????????

    Jobs are a PRIVILEGE not a right.

    A job is a thing you pay someone to do so you don't have to do it yourself. No one is obliges to provide jobs.
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    Also socialism is not population control,
    </blockquote>Yes it is. You cannot provide for everyone's needs if there is limited resources without population control.
    Socialists always always always avoid this because it causes discomfort. They don't like the idea. But its a fact.

    There are limited resources. Period. So in order to provide for everyone, population control is an inevitability. Period.
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    you're spitting baseless ilogical brainwash bullshit, again, and saying "CUZ IT IS" again, with no evidence or logic.
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    ??? Seriously??? Dood. Its basic math.

    If you have 10 apples and 11 Kidd, you'll have to let one starve or prevent it from ever being born in the first place.

    You CANT have socialism without population control. Its impossible.

    -yuri
    no LOL

    Wtf are you talking about?

    -yuri
     
  16. #36 ReturnFire333, Jul 23, 2015
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    fact because you say so, once again. No evidence. Anyways out for now. Not because I'm uncomfortable, well, I am I guess, uncomfortably tired.
     
  17. I stand by it. No taxation, no entitlement, no subsidies for any reason. Then again I'm an anarchist.
     
  18. Are you for real? You must be trolling....

    You literally just asked me to provide evidence that limited resources can only support a limited population.... are you serious? I need a fucking source for that?

    -yuri
     
  19. Or are you asking for a source that jobs a a privilege?

    Are you saying that its just my opinion that I don't have to hire a gardener? That I can't chose a lawn mower instead?

    -yuri
     
  20. We'll see if you stand by it still if you or your families jobs become automated and they need welfare to live. Anarchy is fun to pretend, not to live.
     

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