Stars pulsating in accordance with the Golden Ratio?

Discussion in 'Science and Nature' started by Aequus Argentum, Jul 10, 2015.

  1. This fascinates me to no end. As the article briefly touches on, the Golden Ratio has been a source of great intrigue since the times of DaVinci, Pythagoras, Euclid and so on. History's greatest mathematicians and astronomers expended considerable time and energy into this strange irrational number and still could not fully unlock the mysteries of it. The fact that we now have quantifiable, observable evidence of this ratio existing outside of our home planet is incredible!

    For those who are not so familiar, the Golden Ratio is a special number found by dividing a line into two parts so that the longer part divided by the smaller part is also equal to the whole length divided by the longer part. It is often symbolized using [​IMG] (phi), the 21st letter of the Greek alphabet. In an equation form, it looks like this:


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    a/b = (a+b)/a = 1.6180339887498948420…
    Just like Ï€ (pi) the digits go on and on, theoretically to infinity. Many a scholar have made cases for the Golden Ratio occurring in a multitude of places in nature and in our cosmos. Some of these claims can be seen quite easily, while others are less evident and possible exaggerated or even fabricated. However, this new development, while not the be-all end-all of the study of [​IMG], certainly lends to our ideas of it being a fundamental part of the universe, perhaps even a constant.


    What do you think?

     
  2. Is that really all you came here to post?
     
  3. The idea that the golden ration and pi have some mystical place in our cosmos is silly.. pseudoscience.. philosophy.. spiritual.. borderline delusional. There is a reason infinite numbers wormed their way into philosophy.. and my best guess is simply because they are infinite numbers. That means that no matter what quantity or decimal place we figure them out to be, there will ALWAYS be a more precise answer, a better answer.


    As for the stars pulsing in the golden ratio.. could very well be possible. Doesn't mean there is anything mystical about it. They found it in 4 stars.. out of billions upon billions of stars. As for the 4 they cherry picked out.. those 4 are in the same class. The reason they are in the same class is because they have very similar qualities. It's only common sense that if one of them coincidentally pulsed near (keyword near) then they probably all would. What they did in this study is what someone would do if given billions of pieces of different kinds of fruit.. then picking out 4 apples to eat and then saying "hmm.. those 4 apples had seeds to grow more apples.. that's trippy.. man".


    And all stars vary in frequency to some degree. Some very little.. and some with extreme differences in their high and low frequencies.Being that all stars vary in frequency.. you could probably find all sorts of ratios. There are probably a few stars where their frequencies vary in a ratio of pi too.. or 5. So combing through countless stars to find 4 that pulse in a way that you're actively looking for is poop.. and whoever did should be ashamed of letting their confirmation bias win.
     
  4. #5 Aequus Argentum, Jul 10, 2015
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    Never said there was anything mystical about it, but it's still a fun concept to entertain. I mean, it's mathematically one of the most irrational of all possible irrational numbers but, much like theFibonacci number, it's incredibly abundant in nature in a variety of places -- big, small, and especially beautiful. I encourage you to do some more reading before you completely shut out ideas. You really seemed to bristle at this thread for some reason.
     
  5. Why do people who believe in bullshit assume that when someone doesn't believe in their bullshit that they never took the time to investigate said bullshit? As someone who has been a math/numbers geek since childhood, I can tell you there is nothing special about the golden ratio. There are a few examples to be found in nature.. but a lot of examples that people come up with aren't truly examples, it is them picking out what they want to see. The few examples where one can truly say that the golden ratio can be found in nature are all examples of life, like pinecones and sunflower seeds and snail shells.. and the easiest way to explain it is that the genes encoding those traits simply duplicate what worked last. Just like Fibonacci's sequence, you simply add the number before. Nothing special about it.. and isn't scientific to assume there is. People attach emotion to numbers all the time.. and when they do, when they randomly happen across those numbers, they stand out. Just like when people attach emotion to 9/11 and swear they always happen to glance at a clock when it is 9:11. It is because they are subconsciously always glancing but because a non 9:11 time doesn't stand out, it doesn't consciously effect a person. It is the same thing with the golden ratio.
     
  6. And I seem "bristle" because with the nature of this thread.. your low post count when making it.. and how I read you say you think fluoride is meant to keep the people docile, my previously banned troll alert goes off.
     
  7. Seriously! We are swamped with belief in bullshit. What the fuck has happened to people's ability to think? Has there been an alien invasion and they're using invisible techniques at the dispersion of stupid? lol


    Anyway, I guess you don't believe that the so-called "Fibonacci sequence" wasn't actually called the "Illuminati sequence" back before the Bilderbergs took over the planet and bombed the world trade center?


    Btw, I also noticed that the "SlowMo sequence" is found throughout nature. It's defined as {1,2,3,4,...,n+1}. Tell me you haven't seen that bitch all over the place!
     
  8. Dude.. I just counted my fingers and it follows the SlowMo sequence. I figured it was just a coincidence.. until I counted my toes too! Fucking mind blown.
     
  9. told ya! Spooky shit.
     
  10. No I came here because about a year ago everyone on this website wasn't a f****** dick. Can't post a single thing on any form without at least one person just saying something stupid
     
  11. #12 wyzard, Jul 11, 2015
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    The reason for this phenomenon of reoccurring ratios is due to the way mathematical functions behave when their domains expand toward the infinite. If you're really interested, take an online calculus course that includes Taylor Series.
     
  12. Interesting, thanks for actually contributing something. I'll look into that.
     

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