Commercial stealth grow kits - or how to get rich quick

Discussion in 'First Time Marijuana Growers' started by Hedley, Jul 4, 2015.

  1. Ok, so I'm a complete newbie and wanted a grow kit which would give me ganja in 8 weeks and only required me to water some plants.
    I started off wanting a stealth PC case grow kit, and then found grow tents are much better cos I don't live with my parents.
    I decided on hydroponic rather than soil for big yields and high potency. It was a simple choice.


    I was then surprised to find you have to be practically a farmer or horticulturalist to grow some weed! This is unbelievable.
    So my idea is this:


    1. Find the absolute smallest grow tent for growing good ganja.
    2. Get a fan and encase it in a rectangular box.
    3. Get lights and encase it in a rectangular box.
    3. Get plant pots and encase it in a rectangular box.


    So now when someone sets up a tiny grow tent for 2-3 plants, they simply slot in 4 modules into the grow tent.
    First the fan box on top (outtake), the light box beneath that, another fan box (intake) at the bottom with the plant box above it.
    Simple.
    You can even patent the boxes and the grow tent whose frame accepts the boxes.


    Finally, you say to people they can have home grown ganja in an easy-to-use system.
    It's like a smartphone with battery charger, sim card, memory card, and phone case. Each item has been shaped to fit in simply and easily.
    You don't need to be an expert on compatibility and optimisation because all that stuff has already been done for you.


    This is a genius idea. I would do it myself, but I think people who make grow kits can start off more quickly.
    Any thoughts why you're not buying this off ebay?







     
  2. The LAW maybe?






     
  3. its a waste of money.......?


    And the fact that you are even mad about cannabis taking some skill to grow.....maybe cannabis is not for you m8. Some of us are meant to grow, some of us are meant to buy.


    Starting in hydroponics, especially with the attitude you have, you will likely not grow anything.


    im not here to be rude, im not here to be nasty. Im pointing out blunt facts about what you posted, and giving an honest outside view

     
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  4. I don't think it's illegal to sell PC grow kits.
    They're available on ebay and there are companies advertising their grow kits on Youtube.
    Of course, some companies say you can use the grow kits for tomatoes - but we all know what it's really for.


    Also, it's not illegal to buy and sell marijuana seeds.

     
  5. There is a blunt fact that you've made a lot of assumptions from my post.
    But thank you for your opinion anyway.

     
  6. maybe you worded your comment wrong because I took it the same way DaekEetrius took it, if it was as simple as pouring water on some plants, then everybody would be doing it, big yields and high potency is usually not that simple. going hydro for a first timer is pretty aggressive and might be better off starting with soil. Good luck with trying to market your system, the market is flooded with all different types
     
  7. This was more of a cocky answer then my life could handle, thats why i gave the response.
    I heard it in a Crabby Starbucks white girl voice,
    "yea so like i decided on hydroponic rather than nasty soil for them big yields and high potency! Was totally as simple choice!"
    Stepping into growing cannnabis with any kind of cockyness is a recipe for failure. And im not bashing that idea, but a LOT of people do not buy those things cause they are SUPER expensive compared to making your own at home and im talking like 300-400$ to much.


     
  8. the reason people dont buy those weak boxes off ebay, because they wont provide a decent grow..


    weak lights, weak ventilation, weak everything...the dwc boxes are too small and cheaply made..they might be good for the stealth grower..but most of us dont have to have that..


    growing weed can be easy..but it takes expirience..im on my second real grow and im still learning so much
     
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  9. Ok, so soil might be better for a newbie. That's interesting. But I don't have a garden where I live.
    Could I instead buy some tomato plants in pots, remove the plants and use the soil knowing it's good enough for tomatoes?


    Also, why is hydro so difficult? If I have fans, lights on a timer and an air pump for the water, then it seems a lot of the stuff is automated. Is their more science and hassle to hydro?


    Clearly, the most simple grow method would be good for a newbie like me. So is the soil method the best option for a beginner?
     
  10. I was trying to be humorous but it didn't work, so I'm sorry.
    So growing ganja is clearly a difficult skill.


    I was thinking of getting a PC grow case using hydro for $170. However, I'm not entirely sure what to do after I get it.
    So now you know my situation.
    Would it be best to use the soil or hydro method?


    I can easily use a grow tent, but they're so big and it's a little daunting thinking about how to use it.


     
  11. Thank you, this is very helpful.


    I was thinking a small grow tent would be a good idea for my consumption.
    However, knowing what hardware to put inside it is a difficult decision for me.

     
  12. I currently have a grow tent, no fan or anything else in it. Just the light and the plant. Temp stays about 82 degrees.


    There are basics you need to follow, so there is a huge learning curve, but once you learn them it's simple. I'm on my 5th grow, but I messed up my 4th grow with simple mistakes: nitrogen toxicity, topping, transplant, and it almost dried out in the outside heat. That was all in a 48 hour period. Doing too much too fast and made mistakes.


    There is no "plug n play" when it comes to growing. You have to be involved with your grow.


    Also, as people have said already, it's cheaper to setup your own than it is to buy on ebay.

     
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  13. Soil is more forgiving then hydro, lets say you do something to the system x amount of hours before going to bed. You think "Yo everything is great" wake up the next day with fried plants, ive seen it. There are PH swings to worry about, amongst finding out the Nute str that you need for the plants.


    If you decide to grow soil you can get a bag of FFOF on ebay for like.....15$. More then enough soil for a first grow.
    And if you go the soil route, always remember to buy a bag of Perlite from Homedepot or lowes or another store that carries lawn and garden stuff. Never use Miracle Gro its not meant for cannnabis.
    When/if you get the soil & perlite, mix them at a ratio of 60% Soil 40% Perlite and make sure to mix it around really good. I myself grow with CFL's. i use 400W CFl's (Their actual watt is 105W) and i use 4 of them. So you could say im doing a 420w grow.
    And i get great results with my CFL's regardless of what anybody on here has ever told me.
    http://forum.grasscity.com/absolute-beginners/1355...
    This link is my second grow with my CFL's im on my 4th grow now still using the same CFL's and when i bought these lights, i got them off of amazon for 20$ for 2 of them. Spent 40$ on the lights, ive got a 70$ Grow tent. My Inline Exhaust fan cost me about 100$ And my carbon filter cost me about 40$. My nutrients i won from a Grow show in california, so ive got everything covered i even use a 4$ timer for my plants, that ive used for an entire year now.

     
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  14. If you want to just water and not worry about anything else then organic soil is a better bet. just water as the soil dries out and topdress with organic nutrients at the beginning of flower.


    Growing from seed to harvest in 8 weeks? Never going to happen. You need a minimum of 8 weeks just for flowering, and that is with growing hydro. Read the forums, learn how to grow and then buy what you need to start growing. Give it a good 6 months of researching and learning before you buy anything.
     
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  15. if you go with soil
    .
    .get roots organics soil


    Its ph balanced and already amended with plenty of nutes..


    I haven't had to use bottled nutes..at all..
    Just water..


    Check out


    Www.growweedeasy.com


    Read everything..before you buy..


    With PC case..your getting such low yields is pointless..


    I spent 500 on a complete tent package..had everything..


    Www.growace.com


    Check out complete grow packages
     
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  16. #16 Hedley, Jul 6, 2015
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    Already replied to this. Post deleted.
     
  17. Wow, just the light and the plant? Very impressive.
    That is encouraging. I'll need to do a lot of reading and start soon - don't want to start growing in the winter.

     
  18. You can get 5 metre LED strip lights at a very small price off ebay ($11).
    I could stick the full 5 metres to a piece of cardboard and use that as the lighting in a grow tent.
    You can even change colours when the weed goes from veg to flower state.


    So what's the beef on that? Is the wattage really low because obviously everyone else would be using it.

     
  19. Ok, that's a good point.

    I'm gonna do some light reading and get prepared. Thank you.

     
  20. I have visited your link. Very easy to understand. It's a good website.
    I'll be spending some time there and learning the art. Thanks very much!

     

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