Barack Obama Blames Deaths Of Americans On Not Passing His Gun Laws.

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  1. #2 Darth_Lotus, Jun 20, 2015
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oD0z275nQnM , this first 10 - 15 minute of this video are pretty good, then it goes on and definitely does a good job debunking a tv actor crisis witness who got to go on the TV show spree! wee!  .....also the 2 sets of parents who lost kids all had previous acting careers, and all went on to do heavy lobbying for gun conservation
     
    We will continue to see gun control pushed hard as fuck moving forward, its a big part of the agenda.
    Edit: I re-watched some of the video....watch the 8 thru about 13 to 14 minutes, more if you want ...the 8 thru 13 14 gives you background into the parents of kids who died who are involved politically
     
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  2. #3 Darth_Lotus, Jun 20, 2015
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    People don't ask questions for the same reason you don't ask questions, or why I don't ask questions
    If you were someone who would ask questions, what would you do to ask these questions as an free American citizen? Go to your town hall meeting? continue to vote for republican or democrat because you've been agreeing with their policies? switch to the otherside because their views match yours more?
     
     
    Edit: I suppose you can go full board, and petition, maybe try kicking up your own bill...I sure as hell wont tho lol
     
  3. OP your headline says Obama blames the death of Americans on not passing "his" gun laws but no where does he call those laws his.  Is your headline truthful or do you have poor reading skills?
     
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  4. #5 roorforcrumble, Jun 20, 2015
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    What proposals? Obama and others do realize that shotguns and rifles are still largely allowed in high gun control countries, and that you cannot ban weapons in a place where literally millions of citizens still live in the wilderness. 
     
    Stick Obama in the woods with some hogs and a bolt action rifle, and see how he likes it. 
     
  5. Never heard Obama say he wants to ban any type of gun

    Do u have a link or quote?
     
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  6. ^ lol ... Nah, just some old double barrel shotgun (The Joe Biden special) ...
     
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  7. #8 roorforcrumble, Jun 20, 2015
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    I am talking about democrats, there have been assault weapons bans before. What do you think they mean by "gun control", for strong-hearted democrats it means ban assault weapons and pistols, and now it means ban all mags over 10 rounds for pistols and AR. Guess you live a red state and have not experienced all this yet. Don't vote O'Malley, I can tell you that right now. He supported a law to force grandfathered-in gun owners to have to forfeit their pistols until they met a newly passed law. Needless to say it didn't happen, state police basically figured it was preposterous in terms of workload and wrong.
     
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  8. http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/obama-resigned-gun-control-charleston-south-carolina-shooting/story?id=31900128
     
    "If Congress had passed some common sense gun safety reforms after Newtown, after a group of children had been gunned down in their own classroom, we might still have some more Americans with us." he said. "We might have stopped one shooter. Some families might still be whole. We all might have to attend fewer funerals and we should be strong enough to acknowledge this."
    This is close, but Obama obv does not clearly take full ownership here....

    Are these the people you are referring to who own the gun control law more so then Obama? please watch about 8 minute mark up to 13 minute mark or so https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oD0z275nQnM




     
     
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  9. #10 boydamien, Jun 21, 2015
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    He has to say something. He's the president and yet again he has to deal with another shooting.

    Would you rather he just went "MEH"!
     
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  10. He doesn't have to say anything but if he chooses to blame something for this tragedy he could have blamed the person who picked up the gun and pulled the trigger or blamed that person's motivations for shooting those people.  Guns are simply tools and they are here to stay.  Blaming a gun for shooting someone avoids the real issues, the difficult ones.  Why blame IS for beheading Christians, why not blame the knives they use.  Same thing.
     
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  11. The problem is that there is a list that's causing these issues. Mentally ill, racism, poverty, current laws that are outdated, poor government workers (cops), etc. Basically there's a lot of issues in our country that hasn't been addressed until now.
     
  12. Weak.......
     
  13. #14 froosh225, Jun 21, 2015
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    I think everyone is aware that the shooter is who is ultimately at fault, but it is still troubling that someone like this or even the Newtown shooter could get their hands on weapons in the first place. And I"m pretty sure I read that in both of those cases, the guns were gifts to the shooters. So whoever gifted them is just as responsible. No one is saying to take away 2nd amendment rights and ban all guns. NO ONE HAS SAID THAT and I'm sick of hearing so many Republicans claiming that is what's going on.
     
    But really, an honest question, what does any joe schmo on the street NEED a high powered assault rifle for anyway? People get so frustrated about limiting magazines and high powered semi automatic weapons, but really, why does anyone even need them in the first place? And why is the idea of tighter background checks and gun registration and then proving you still own the gun down the line/making a chain of custody should the gun switch owners REALLY that big a deal? What rights does that take away? And it's also frustrating to hear people say that the amendments can't be changed. Well, if that's the case, then I guess a good chunk of the population should give back their right to vote then...because amendments have not changed one bit since they were signed. But I get it; it only matters since it could directly apply to them. So much of it is such bullshit. I don't understand why some negotiation can't take place. But as soon as anyone even MENTIONS some sort of tightening up on guns, people jump to the worst possible scenario and blame Obama for trying to make guns illegal when that's not even really what's going on.
     
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  14. #15 jas43, Jun 21, 2015
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    Gun control


    Lololol k

    So what's "really" going on?
     
  15. We've Been to busy funding war and killing innocent people
     
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  16. So what is the real issues!

    From an outsider everytime i hear of another gun massacre i think.
    Man why the fuck do they make it easy for there mentally ill citizens to get guns!

    There has to be a point where you decide whats more important.
    The safety of you're people or the right to stockpile weapons.

    Btw i am not anti american at all, actually have a genuine fondness for America just cant get my head around after all the shootings in the past,it still continues.

    Oh and you're comparison to isis and this recent massacre was just ridiculous!
     
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  17. You're not going to stop criminals from getting guns by passing gun laws. Criminals don't obey the law.
     
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  18. If people want to actually increase gun control they need to lay out specific details as to what the proposals actually are. For example Hillary Clinton came out and said "we need common sense gun control". Ok, so what does that mean, besides the obvious pandering she is doing [​IMG]
     
    "Tighter background checks". Ok, what does that mean? How are current background checks handled? What are the details of this "tighter" system?
     
    Etc, etc, etc.
     
    Are gun control advocates actually aware that 2/3's of all gun deaths are suicide related, not the "mass shooting" hysteria? Knowing this, wouldn't it make sense to go from here instead of, "Why do you need a rifle", or, "You only need 10 rounds in a magazine"?
     
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  19. #20 BlazedGlory, Jun 21, 2015
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    In the Newtown shooting at least, the guns were not a gift to him, he murdered his mother with one of HER guns and stole them. The kid who shot up the church in South Carolina also got his gun illegally. So why do people think more laws will stop these things, when they're already breaking the laws we have? 
     
    And if you really managed to make it so crazies like those guys couldn't get a gun somehow if they really tried, they could always make more destructive and deadly bombs out of things that anyone can buy.
     
    What people have to accept is there is no magic law that will make it impossible to commit a mass shooting. We could always make populations less vulnerable by allowing them the freedom to protect themselves though.
     
    Oh btw there is a legit process to amend the Constitution of the United States, but nobody's proposing to amend the Constitution, they're just saying "fuck the Constitution" which is why people get upset.
     
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