Hey guys and gals... My outdoor Sativa Strain is starting to look deficient in spots, but I can't figure it out using a "Deficiency Table" (Will post pic of said "table"). ANY HELP would be greatly appreciated... Remember, this is outdoors from GOOD bag seed, they're both "hardened" rather well, for their size and have been outside since seedlings! They won't be transplanted into the ground until they are ATLEAST 24" tall, from soil to new growth. If you know the deficiency or if they are getting "burned", how can I fix it ORGANICALLY? Or using household items?
I don't think you have a nutrient deficiency, but I will defer to an expert (which I am not) if they think otherwise. To me it looks like you might be over-watering, or the soil is too dense. If the roots can't keep up with the top growth, the plant will sacrifice old growth to support new growth, and that's what your photos seem to show. What I have done in the past, with young plants that I over-watered or started in poor soil, is let them get so dry they start to wilt - but ONLY if I am right there to catch it. When I do that, I lose some growth at the bottom, but it seems to push the roots, and the plants recover and grow better than ever. Down the line they get a big root ball and you don't have to worry so much about over-watering, except to the extent you flush out nutrients. Another thing you can do is poke something like a tent stake into the soil, to aerate it, but be careful. The other key thing is lots of sunlight, which you may have to balance with security, but the more direct sunlight, the better. I predict your plant will be fine.
Yea, they were literally just transplanted YESTERDAY morning. I used some sand and perlite to aeriate the soil (more on the bottom then on the top, because I wanted those roots to push threw. Obviously I watered/fed with some Organic Compost Tea RIGHT AFTER transplanting from a 1/4 gallon pot to a 3 gallon pot. They were pretty rootbound in the other pots, so hopefully those roots were just running off the feedings and they will start to suck up some micro and "regular" 'ol Nutrients here soon! I'll give it a few days to adjust to the "new" soil and then see how we look! Thanks for your advice! I think I'll try that aeration idea too!
Oh yes... And BTW, "security" isn't THAT big of an issue! They sit in DIRECT, BEAMING sunlight from first thing in the morning till the sun sets. Which is approximately 15(+-) hours right now. Its not even summer here yet (OFFICIALLY), but we're getting 80-90F degree weather right now.
If you just transplanted them, you're probably just seeing a little shock from that, some yellowing of the lower leaves. Overall the plant in the photos looks good. It looks like a nice sativa.
Yea I have SEVERAL grows under my belt. Both indoor and out, but the soil was ALWAYS good in both conditions. Not so much anymore. That said, thank you on the plant. These came from bagseeds from 2 VERY good strains. I think both plants will end up being female... I have an Indica as well. BOTH seeds sat in a bag of rice, in the fridge, for 3 YEARS!!! LOL! That is preservation! Haha
Kinda depends! Is that plant in Veg (I'm assuming!) or Flower? It looks SLIGHTLY Nitrogen Deficient, this is the first letter (N), in a "NPK Ratio". Plants LOVE it in Veg, especially if they're getting a lot of sunlight or have some GOOD bulbs beaming on them. That said, the MJ Plant may love the Nitrogen in Vegetation, but in Flower they should be aloud to become somewhat Nitrogen Deficient, as it will want more of "P and K" during Flower, followed by a GOOD couple flushings at the end of flower. At the end of Flower, when I'm ready to Harvest, I will put the plant in a dark, dry place while putting ICE on top of the soil to do my flushes for me! The reason I do this is because if you shock the plant in late flower with extremely cold GROUND temps and ZERO light, the plant has nothing to do but try to survive by pushing all of its stored sugars and such in the roots to the buds! Make sense? I do this for 3 days (or 72hrs), icing the plant at night (or the coldest part of the day). LOTS of ice too, so this is essentially my flushing method. Also, both of my plants look better today and look like they need a feeding!! My plants are actually becoming Nitrogen Deficient (refer to pics!). You can tell a N Deficiency by yellowing of leaves, starting at the BOTTOM leafsets, working its way UP the plant w/ MORE yellowing leaves. A good feeding should fix mine, I would suppose that it would atleast HELP yours!
Here's a "Dinafem Shark Attack" that I grew... It shows what the buds looked like before icing and after! If u can't tell, I'm a HUGE believer in shocking your plants for the greater good. Whether that's icing them as I'm showing here OR Supercropping my NEW plants! As you can see in my Sativa, it was topped. As you can see on the Indica, it was Fimmed. They'll BOTH be Supercropped when larger! As you can see, the icing of these plants REALLY made those tops EXPLODE and filled out the entire bud. These were Supercropped as well as Topped a few times. But the ICING down of the soil provided some EXTREMELY high quality smoke! I yielded about a QP off these two plants. The two buds that you see are "Lollipops". After initial harvest of the BIG TOPS, I like the let the bottoms swell up in some light afterwards. This lets those smaller buds mature a little bit more before the plant literally dies. I REALLY should've kept a Mother Plant for this Shark Attack Strain, but I had to move so she went into flower and I harvested it outdoors after a transplant.
Yea, just feed them something with a good amount of Nitrogen in it... It just seems slightly Deficient to me. A good feeding should fix it, if not, it may be "nute locked" and a good flush is recommended. Followed by maybe another flush (rid of salts). I would them work in some CRUSHED Dolomite Lime into the soil and water again after they dry out, followed by a feeding. Your PH can keep out Nitrogen too, Dolomite Lime does the trick EVERY TIME! (For me atleast!) Good luck bro!
I'm worried about my Sativa... I went to Supercrop both of the shoots on top and one broke on me. Damnit. Lol. It was IMMEDIATELY covered/supported with duct tape (I keep a cpl pieces around JUST INCASE!) Anyways, it was like a "half break" on a pretty young top. Hopefully it grows back together and it will be the biggest top on the plant! Or, it could die. If ONE shoot dies though, I won't be mad... I'm SURE their will be a TON where that came from. Anyways, pics...
Oh boy! We got something going now! My "broken" (Supercropped) top has ALREADY started to heal!!! Look at the shoot's fan leaves, they're standing AGAIN! I will now have them under artificial light at night time. Its a great lil spot/setup for supporting a vegging outdoor grow... Not a whole lotta light, but its BRIGHT, LED, "Fog Lights" for a car/truck! You can get them super close and they don't get hot! Also have another shop light just pointing on them to help along (what I had lying around the house). I'm happy! As this should REALLY speed up growth...
Looking better. What are you using for soil. Looks like you grabbed dirt from you backyard. I would suggest using a better soil next time or when you transplant. I also steer away from synthetic nutrients as the all contains salts and will cause lock out issues not to mention that those synthetic nutrients get absorbed into the flowers and end up being smoked. Learn to grow organically, it's not hard and U.S. Better for you and the plant. Once you learn the basics you will be surprised on how simple it is. Never skimp on you soil as it's the foundation of you plants. By starting with the best soil possible your plant will result in a much better plant and produce a better yield and quality medicine. Heck of you build a proper soil you could get away with just water; using organic teas will only make it grow faster and bigger. Also there is no need to flush prior to harvest or to get rid of salt build up. When growing organic your soil gets reused each year and it gets better each year as long as you recharge it with amendment. The goal is to have a living soil and it takes time for it to establish good bacterial and microorganism stop develop and multiple. How long are you running the light at night? By using it you could cause early flowering once you stop using it depending on how long it's on at night. I would cut it down to less than 2 hrs at night. I would have it turn on after it becomes dark and turn off before midnight. Cannabis only need about 10-15 mins of light to wake it from sleeping. You could have the light turn on a few times during darkness for 15 mins each hr of darkness and it would keep it in veg. Plants need their sleep too and use the darkness to grow, just make sure your not giving them too much light which can lead to flowering once removed. Good luck.
I have quite a few outdoor grows under my belt, along with SEVERAL indoor grows. I let the plants sleep outside until about 11pm-12am and then I bring them in under the artificial light. They are responding quite well to the light, but feedings don't seem to do much and both plants (ESPECIALLY the Indica) are looking nitrogen deficient! I know the soil is a HUGE part in growing MJ and you're correct about the soil, it came from my yard, but is aerated by a LITTLE Perlite and some Sand. That said, the only reason I did this is to get the plants used to the soil and also help "Harden" them. I have a compost pile, composting, almost right on top of where I plan to plant in the GROUND! The soil should be plenty rich on Nutes and Macro Nutes once I get them in their final "resting spots". Its a good, ALL DAY SUNLIGHT runoff. Its a rainwater ditch that I'll be planting next to and it's easily accessible to water in case of a drought. That said, I think I'm going to run to the Store today and grab a bag of potting soil to mix in with the Topsoil in the pots. Mostly because of the Indica, as it is very N deficient. The Sativa looks damn good and I already have female preflowers on BOTH! But she will get some potting soil too. Thanks for your concern bro... I appreciate it. I've grown some AMAZING strains over my years... Some being GOOD bagseed. That said, I hit two ladies with my first two bagseeds of the Summer!
Well, since my Indica was looking so Nitrogen Deficient, I broke down and bought/made some GOOD, ORGANIC, POTTING SOIL! Yay! Haha... The plants are NICE and Hardened due to the old potting soil and being outdoors in the VERY hot summer weather we're having already (and going to have until Fall, because Summer JUST started)! Nonetheless, this soil should help greatly and move things along. I mixed in a "Slow Release", "Organic Fertilizer" throughout the soil in the 5 gallon bucket (about half of recommended dose for this amount of soil). It SHOULD be enough to keep the plant fed throughout Veg. I can add Compost Tea's and such if they start looking deficient (Check pics for the additive). That said, I ALSO have a Compost Pile going right now and it will be tilled into the GROUND before planting my "Gorilla Grow"! Anyways, I'm going to flush the plants just in case there's ANY salt buildup in the roots. I'll probably lightly spray the roots too, to rid of any old, hard topsoil. Then, I will transplant them into the new soil, in the same 3 Gallon Pots. The only exception is I will be lining the bottom of the pots in 2-3" of "pebbles" to help with drainage/air. They should remain happy in these pretty big pots until they're thrown in the ground once they're about 2-3ft tall or starting to get rootbound! Whichever comes first... I also have 4 Beans that I just popped using the "paper towel method". I'm EXCITED about these particular seedzzzz and for good reason! For one, they all LOOK like Female Seeds with they're almost perfectly round shape and the round "pits" on one side (again, refer to pics!). Secondly, they came out of some REALLY, REALLY good Bud!!! I told my buddy to save ANY seeds he finds, these were the ONLY 4 in about a HP of some Fruity/Skunky Smelling Bud that is absolutely CAKED in trichomes and is probably some of the stickiest shit I've EVER HAD! That's saying something with all of the amazing strains I've grown, seen and OF COURSE smoked over the past 20 some odd years! I'm pretty stoked about those. They're all in an egg crate, in their seperate little "bowls". I have them under the artificial light and fans blowing on them @ 20 and 4 lighting schedule, until they sprout. Anyways, PICTURE TIME! Check out the old dirt compared to the new dirt and stuff. There's normal pics and one's with the flash on, so you can see the quality of the soil(s) - which is top soil in the green pot (old) and the new potting soil in the white bucket! Enjoy! (Picture #1 is the bud that the NEW beans came from!)
What up followers/peeps?! I transplanted the babies into new POTTING soil, with added organic, slow release fertilizer. Its ALL organic, just read the previous post! Lol Just wanted to show the transplant, under artificial lights... The Sativa is looking pretty damn good. Hopefully the Indica will get over this nitrogen deficiency. The root balls weren't very big at all, I expect this to change in the new soil... FAST! The Sativa has ALREADY grown about an inch!!!! Anyways, ignorant the cutting (of a tree) I was trying to clone. Probably not going to live, though it DOES have roots! So let's get to these pics! (Sorry if they're blurry, I have TWO fans now, BLASTING on both plants to garden them even MORE!)
Well, I don't think the Indica is going to live, sucks but there seems to be nothing I can do! I changed its soil, rinsed BOTH plants roots before transplanting, let them sit in the new soil and dry out, then went back to the same ol regimen! (Watering as needed) I don't feed the plants very often due to the 8-5-5 organic, slow release fertilizer mixed into the new medium! Anyways, the Sativa is growing FAST and looking great (other than where a lower shoot got broke off! Not a big deal, as she'll be Topped and SC'd throughout the grow). She LOVES the hot sun, new soil and regular waterings. The Indica seems Nitrogen Deficient, as the yellowing of leaves (then the "clawing", followed by the leaf or leaves falling off!) started at the bottom and are/did working their way up the plant, FAST! Since it looked so deficient today and looking like it's going to die.... I took some of the SAME Fertilizer and ground it up (in a blender with HOT water, so it would be an INSTANT release Fert. I just got finished watering both and we'll see what happens with the Indica. I'm really not stressing this, as I wanted TALL, BIG plants outside.... That'll get HUGE in the summer sun! I know some strains like outdoors better than others, so that could be an issue as well. Nonetheless, I will be cloning my Sativa anyways, so I'll have atleast a couple plants if THAT strain. I also have 4 more beans in the process of breaking the ground to receive that wonderful light! Good day ladies and gents, I will keep you posted!
For growing as long as you claim it seems like you are having a lot of simple issues. Reading a grow book would do wonders for your grow. Not trying to be a dick but you are making rookie mistakes. A boom will improve things greatly and you will have larger yields and better quality meds.