In need of flushing info

Discussion in 'First Time Marijuana Growers' started by delinquentlink, May 30, 2015.

  1. I've been using this forum as a reference, but can't seem to find what I'm looking for this time.
    This is my first grow. I'm running Canna A&B in coco coir, in a 4 1/2 X 6 foot shed, with 3 300w full spectrum LED's, inside a bedroom. With no issues to speak of as of yet.
    However, I am doing 6 plants, 2 Girl Scout Cookies, 2 Arts og, and 2 White Bubbas. And I'm unsure of all of their flowering times. i only know the Arts og is a 8 week flower cause I got it from the strain creators in the valley.
    That being said, my question has to do with flushing. As I'm unsure of the flowering time on the other 2 strains, would it hurt if I flush them all at once, or should I stretch the others out a few extra days with nutes to err on the safe side? I intend to start flushing in weeks 7 and 8, but if the white bubba turns out to be a 9 week strain am I risking any major issues?
     

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  2. Girl Scout Cookies is a 60-70 day strain. I'm not sure about the White Bubba. The only thing you are risking by continuing to give them nutes is a nasty taste that will take a longer cure to get rid off. If you cut their nutes off 2-3 weeks before they are finished, well, I'm not sure what it will do besides make the plant have a deficiency which could slow any growth that happens in the last few weeks. 2 weeks is probably fine, 3 is most likely pushing it.
     
    http://en.seedfinder.eu/strain-info/Girl_Scout_Cookies/
     
  3. if you cut them off the nutes and water only 2-3 weeks before harvest you will have a smoother way better tasting smoke but may be comprising yield just a smidge. i'd rather have less bud that's top shelf than more bud that tastes like shit because your literally smoking nutrients and wont even burn in a joint paper. i wouldn't do a 3 week flush tho just a 2. 
     
  4. Thanx for the responses. I guess I'll just start my flush on week 7 and hope for the best!
     
  5. flushing is a myth. No professionals in herb curing or spice curing flushes their plants nutes except for salt build up.
     
    I know it seems logical that the plant drinks all the nutes into itself but hold up cowboy i dont think its that easy. Once you under stand how the plants use the nutes you will have a better understanding of when to flush(3days).
     
    Sorry to be the bearer of bad news.
     
  6. i guess there's always a first time to hear something lol. ill stick with my 2 week flush. your the first person ive ever heard to only do a 3 day. the only other time ive heard it is when your going to be water curing. but i could be wrong.. do you have any evidence to support your theory that it's a myth? indulge me on this.. let us understand how the plants use the nutes. i am very curious because if you can convince me ill be willing to try it on one of my plants.. this video at 2:40 has me convinced it's not a myth.. hell this video all the way through has me convinced its indeed not a myth. not trying to argue at all just trying to get educated on your point of view.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9sr58DBJ0Dw&oref=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D9sr58DBJ0Dw&has_verified=1
     
  7. I flush 3 times to every 1 feed in soil during bloom.
     
    I cut back on nitrogen final 2-4weeks.
     
    My plants are so far bloomed that all the leaves are yellow.
     
    I flush three days and put it into darkness for 48-72 hours to preserve flavor.
     
    Thats a total of 5 day flush cutting back nutes(Not all)
     
    My weed come out cali standard. No leaf in the bud(Pure bud). Huge rich flower glads from care and good genes.
     
    Aged for months in glass jars with humid gauges.
     
    I NEVER have black ash that doesn't burn.(Even with synthetic nutes)
     
     
    The part in the vid where the guy shows you black ash is bullshit. If your joint goes out while your smoking it or it doesnt stay lit it is a sign that its good pot or its wet weed. I have tested this side by side with my grows. I suggest you Test it for yourself. 
     
    People just started assuming pros flush for other reasons.
     
    Then the crackle myth was born...
     
    "Weed that crackles and pops has not been flushed properly".
     
    Ok....what about weed that was flushed right an still crackles and pops?
     
    It is best to double check your sources outside the cannabis community every once in a while. Us stoners seem to make shit up a lot.
     
  8. Now matter how good you flush a pure sativa high in resin you will always have a crackle and pop when smoked. Especially if its been sitting a couple months and is almost dry.
     
    Thats just what happens when oil is dry and burned at high heat.
     
  9. Myth #4 â€œFlushing plants with plain water removes chemicals.”
    Flushing your plants in the last two weeks of a grow is one the most common pieces of knowledge when it comes to pre-harvest time.
    So is flushing your plants before harvest a good idea? Yes. But not for the reason that most people think…
    Any time you feed your plants, they intake nutrients which - in too-high amounts - are not able to be used by the plants and therefore can add a 'chemically' taste to your buds. Flushing in the last two weeks gives your plant a chance to “drink water” without extra minerals to further alter the taste. It also clears out any build up of excess minerals or nutrient salts in your medium (such as coco coir, or water for DWC).
    However, flushing does not "leach out" nutrients/minerals that are already in the buds. While your plant can use up extra stored nutrients in the leaves of the plant, this does not remove a "chemical" taste from your buds if you've provided too many nutrients throughout the flowering stage.
    Many people believe that flushing with plain water takes nutrients (and thus bad taste) out of the buds, in a sense, returning them to their â€˜natural flavor'. Unfortunately, this just isn't the case.
    When it comes to ensuring good taste and smell of your cannabis plants, an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. Instead of relying on the flush to prevent extra nutrients from being stored in your buds, it's better to avoid ever giving the plant more nutrients than it can use in the first place. That means keeping nutrient levels as low as you can throughout the grow while preventing nutrient deficiencies.
     
  10. I just bought some weed that i would call not properly flushed about 2 weeks ago. The joint wouldn't stay lit.. the ash was very black & the weed tasted like shit. If i wanted to smoke it i HAD to smoke it out of a pipe and every hit i took was very very rough. So if that's what you call good bud your idea of good bud and my idea of good bud are world's apart. It literally tasted like burnt hair. And it was definitely not wet weed, i have had wet weed. This was almost crumbly dry weed. It was very shitty but what can you expect when you buy cheap weed. And ive never heard the crackle theory. You say US stoner's make a lot of shit up yet you compared your weed to the cali standard so im confused on that. I just want you to explain how the plant uptakes nute's and why only a 3 day flush is needed not what you do. I want to know the science behind it not your theory but the actual science behind it. If you cant give us that information then what do you think would entitles us to trust yours? And yes your view on the crackle theory makes a lot of sense.. What's oil do when heated? Bubbles and cracks.. Same way if your smoking nasty ass resin it cracks and pops. 
     
  11. #11 SomeRandomNewb, May 30, 2015
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    All it is like you said to me is a random source on the internet's opinion. I understand that the plant's have already taken up the nutrient's and once they are in they are in.. BUT if your not feeding them the last 2 weeks that gives them that much less nutrients to take up right? So why settle for smoking even more nutes when you could simply prevent it? I understand a longer cure will help it but why should it be needed? I dont feed much in flower.. Hell im on week 5 of flower right now and my plant has only been fed 3 times its entire life. I try to get away without using nutes as much as possible. If we were all growing organic in a living supersoil there would be absolutely no need for a flush at any time. All im trying to say is im very much intrigued because ive never heard anybody.. and trust me there are many many seasoned growers on here and out of all of them your the only ive heard recommend only a 3 day flush. 
     
  12. The food we eat everyday is not flushed. They use synthetic nutrients.
     
  13. The synthetic nutes bring salts. The salts kill the beneficial bacteria that helps manage PH and establish a relationship with the roots. So flushing often is wise.
     
  14. Dont worry well get to the bottom of this for you!
     
  15. i disagree, unless your eating fast foods. i live in a very farmer rural area so most thing's i eat are freshly grown by farmers or grown in my garden. i buy all my meat from a meat market that is just processed no preservatives or anything. the only way that hold's up is if you eat out alot and dont cook your own meals. or your just buying shit from the frozen section. 
     
  16. haha im just not convinced man! 
     
    and yes i agree 100% with this.. 
     
  17. You don't want t to be smoking synthetic nutes. Rather a traditional 3x the water flush or just don't feed nutes the last few weeks type of flush.
     
  18. If you dont want to smoke synthetic nitrogen, then dont use it!
     
    Bottom line no matter how many flushes you do your still smoking synthetic nutes silly.
     
  19. did I say you would get it all out? I sure never did. I don't grow with synthetics anymore partially because you won't get synthetics all out and I don't want to smoke that shit. But for those who do grow with sythetics at least give it an effort to smoke a few synthetic nutrients as posssible. Its not a myth......silly
     

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