The society of the patriarchs

Discussion in 'Religion, Beliefs and Spirituality' started by pickledpie, May 28, 2015.

  1. There are those, who supremely wise, sit on the throne of wisdom. Other's come and seek their wisdom. In our propensity to lie to ourselves we do not even like to admit our need to bow.
     
    There exists an image of perfection, one to which we should always bow. We should live our lives with heads lowered in humbleness to the supreme being. The all pervading Guru principle that is the essence of perfection itself. In the Word of the Lord all things have been contained, there is no thing outside the Word. The Logos, The Shabad, The Om. This manifest world is vibration. Those who know will prosper.
     
    The primal command that contained everything in it. To understand it is to realize the treasure within ourselves. We look out into an imaginary world, we are contained within it's bounds. This Maya. Be attentive at all times, lest you find a world or a self. Remain in the intuitive state of equipoise that is unmoved by the world and remains in remembrance of the lord.
     
    The paths are many, those seeking will find. Those who do not seek, will not find. My heart radiates bliss in the ten directions. May all beings of all times be blessed infinitely by the Guru.

     
  2. #2 ezak420, May 28, 2015
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    no ‘rules', other than those evolved by the necessity of energy manifesting the experiences intended by consciousness, or by the self-imposed limitations of our own individualized perceptions.
     
    basic reality has 1 undifferentiated part; a limitless resource of information and potential. at what rate it will develop is subjective but, always existing
     
  3. I prefer not to bow to anyone.     Given this species' history of monarchies, slavery, and general hierarchies perpetrated by man via government or religion, I'd expect anyone seeking to be truly free to avoid anything resembling bowing.  The actual act or a symbolic equivalent.

    You can give yourself to the infinite wonders and mysteries of the universe without subjugation.   

    A subjugated mind is not a free and open one. 
     
  4. If we don't bow to wisdom, then we bow to ignorance. If we are unable to bow before the inherent divinity within man and this entire creation, then we bow to our ego. You can either be in subjugation to falsehood or truth. We cannot remove ourselves from that. When we live in reverence and awe of this world, when we live in humbleness with open ears and open heart, then we only bow to truth and we sit above falsehood like a lotus above the water. When we worship our self and do not understand submission, then we live under the yoke of falsehood and when death comes we are taken away screaming and confused. Those who live in perfect harmony with the order live beyond life and death. They have accepted all and seen the truth of what they are. If we don't bow to wisdom, we bow to ignorance.
     
  5. But we're all gnna die so why so serious
     
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    You think death is real? Sit in the throne of Mind and observe the source of your consciousness in meditation. The reality of what you are will emerge. You will see the infinite light of limitless energy blossoming forth infinitely. Those who ride upon the sound-current to the spring understand this.
     
  7. Why not devote yourself in the cultivation of the most profound treasure that this world, this life and being in interconnection with a reality so vast and differentiated, has to offer. What does it mean to be holy and pure? It means to be Wholesome and Unblemished. And reside in that state of consciousness. We think we are things that we are in fact not. This is the problem. It's so hard to explain how wholesome that feeling is. 
     
    Set your eyes in the right place. Make them one.
     
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    Not subjective. It is experienced subjectively. If we remove the subjective then it is undefinable energy that is in constant flux.
     
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    but I'm a human :( I live, I laugh, I die
     
  10. And do we on this world know in a conclusive fashion what it means to be a human?

    And when your material body dies, what happens to the non-material part of you that you carry all day with you?

    "Magnetocardiography (MCG) is a technique to measure the magnetic fields produced by electrical activity in the heart using extremely sensitive devices such as the superconducting quantum interference device (SQUID)"

    http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetocardiography

    The only difference between a human body that is "alive" one minute, and "dead" the next minute, is the lack of and electrical presence.

    Where does this electrical presence come from?

    Where does it go when you're "dead"?


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    By non-material r u referring to my soul, spirit and "energy"? I don't think I have any of those
     
    Electricity is created naturally in the body. Don't remember exactly how, something about ions, potassium or whatever
     
    I live to reproduce. It's not poetic but it's why I exist
     
  12. #12 Browne, May 29, 2015
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    Just that it is a part of your body that is THERE (measurable) that is not made of material.

    The other terms you mentioned are emotionally loaded terms and using them can shut down the thinking process with some people. So I try not to use them. But I suppose I could theorize that our field is our "conscious seat" without scaring too many away.

    Mainstream science does not fully understand magnetic fields either. It is theorized that they can occupy more than one dimension at any given time. So there is a lot of POTENTIAL there in getting to know them better than we do now.

    Another thing to consider is the consistency reported in near death experiences, of the experience of floating out of your body. If the body's magnetic field is the "conscious seat", and if that "seat" is "detachable" from the material body to some degree, than these NDE's, and their consistent theme, start to make sense.

    Here, Hawking is essentially asking the same question I am when wondering where our energy comes from...

    "Even if there is only one possible unified theory, it is just a set of rules and equations. What is it that BREATHES FIRE into the equations and makes a universe for them to describe? The usual approach of science of constructing a mathematical model cannot answer the questions of why there should be a universe for the model to describe. Why does the universe go to all the bother of existing?" ~ Stephen Hawking


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  13. That is Hawking "bowing" to the image of perfection (humility).
     
  14. In a very grounded, newtonian worldview, objectified in all possible senses by the scientific method. Ya! You're right ;) but I see the unicorn, do you?
     
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    rofl after smoking a bowl, sure
     
  16. Lol guess I coulda expected that response :p
     
  17. #17 ezak420, Jun 1, 2015
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    all physical manifest is subjective, based on relationships, individualy or collectively. energy has the singular objective, ‘to be', or exist.
     
  18. Good point, ive never thought of that.
     

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