Whats with these leaves?

Discussion in 'Growing Organic Marijuana' started by Sativa Scotty, May 16, 2015.

  1. I'm not too worried because the top growth is healthy. Still I have yellowed leaf edges & brown tips. Since this is a true organic soil, I should be able rule out ph, nutrient lockout & nutrient burn.

    It's 1 inch under cfls. The amendments were 4 cups per cf which is a bit much & it's definitely not over watered so what should I explore to fix this for my summer seedlings which just popped? ImageUploadedByGrasscity Forum1431766551.275692.jpg ImageUploadedByGrasscity Forum1431766568.915992.jpg
     
  2. correct me if im wrong but i THINK plants can still get burned in too hot of a soil, even organic.
     
    peace!
     
  3. ^^^^THAT^^^^

    And you can certainly have pH problems and lockout in organics as well. To think otherwise usually results in a very rude awakening sooner or later. More likely, sooner.

    Wet
     
  4. That's just making too broad of a generalization. That looks like burn to me. It depends on what sources you're using in your soil. What's the mix?
     
  5. #5 Kesey, May 16, 2015
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    It's a root zone problem, over fertilization or as I call it 'undercycled' soil. If given enough time to decompose then your ammendment ratio would be fine. I'm sure you only let it sit for a month then threw a lady in it, damn shame..
     
    I won't touch my soil bins for at least 3 months after mixing..
     
    You might pop it out of the pot and take a look at the roots as well to inspect for insect/fungal damage. Not likely if you're letting your soil dry out too much (Which is also bad..)..
     
  6. You NEVER rule out ph in any soil.

    That's a pretentious attitude that leads to very flawed mentality.

    It's looks like low ph imho. Probably didn't add enough dolomite lime.
    ~ poke
    And yes, obvious signs of nute burn.
     
  7. I hear over and over that if you build your soil right, ph isn't a factor to worry about.

    I have a cup of garden lime per cf
    The soil has been sitting for 2 months
    I seriously doubt a pest problem, so I'm going to go with the soil is too hot . Can I dilute my summer soil with more base soil?

    I have a thick carpet of clover on my summer containers & I was told that if the clover looks good the soil is good.
     
  8. I think 1 cup / cf. is pretty modest and diversity is key..
     
  9. The compost is 50/50 agrowinn ewc & Malibu BU blend

    2 cups espoma. 1 cup kelp & 1 cup neem. I knew this was a bit much for 1 cf. I just didn't think it'd burn. Along with rock dust & lime, I'd say it's a good mix especially for a first timer. I also transplant with b vam mycos
     
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    I think you could make a couple of safe assumptions; 1) since new growth is fine and only old growth shows symptoms of chlorosis the worst of the past is behind you, 2) your soil mix is ok, and 3) CFL's do generate a lot of heat so be careful how close they are to the plants.
     
    If new growth continues healthy and lower growth continues to develop chlorosis then there's a potential nutrient availability. If the problem starts manifesting itself on new growth as well as old growth you're probably not in good shape.
     
    Let it go and keep an eye on it. Things move fairly slowly in an organic grow vs the alternative route of growing.
     
    HTH's
     
  11. its also strain dependent. some strains can take hotter soil and some are more delicate and need a milder mix. so what might be ok for one plant might burn another.
     
    listen to possuum!
     
  12. "some strains can take hotter soil and some are more delicate"

    Funny, I keep hearing this but have never seen it. It would be the very last thing I'd do is to make different strength soil for different cannabis strains.

    J


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  13. #13 ladyluckybean, May 17, 2015
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    i have 6 plants in some coot mix that's uncooked. half the plants are doing okay but the others have this dark green claw look to them. whats going on?
     
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  15. i never seen it either just from what i read. then again im a noob grower i haven't grown many strains :rolleyes:
     
  16. well I think it's cause the soil is not cooked or rather fully cycled. I thought they said you don't have to but I guess I just don't understand why some are acting this way while others are not. the soil is mixed well so there shouldn't be any spots of deeper concentration or whatever. just so weird. kinda pissed because they look this way.
     
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    I guess there's truth to if one is growing corn or potatoes. Cannabis...[​IMG] [​IMG][​IMG] ...not so much.  
     
    Do we understand better why 'the movement' is like it is? People will believe a whole buncha stuff I reckon [​IMG]
     
    Is that a new Sub Bogey thingy?  'Hot soil, no problemo! Grow the cannabis habanero! It'll tickle your tuchus!'
     
  18. Hi Possum. The only time I could *maybe*??? see having a *maybe*??? different soil would be be with a pure sativa strain - and I don't mean *ahem* - "vanilla strawberry Thai" or "super
    obnoxious fruity Haze"... But maybe a true old skool real deal Sativa might require a slight different variation to what we do. Maybe. I say this because I've got limited experience with real Sativa and I've heard hints that they might require (like/enjoy) a slightly weaker variation of our living soils.

    I'd like to hear ol' "Sativa Al" Swearengen comment.... Because I could be WAY off.

    I guess my point is that 99% of the cross mixes/Sativa/indica Hoo Ha out there DONT require different mixes nor are they anything special that are more "hungry" for this that or the other thing than other varieties.
    Then again I've been out mowing the lawn on two houses for the last six hours and am now crankin out several adult beverages on a sunny Sunday Maine afternoon so who knows?

    Hope you're well dude. :)

    J


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  19. If you didn't let the soil cycle then yeah, don't be surprised. Some nutrients cycle fast (alfalfa, chicken manure) and have a propensity to burn youngish plants.
     
  20. #20 Kesey, May 20, 2015
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    Uhm, stop watering so damn much and add more aeration. Can you not see the swelling in the walls?
     
    Or you're having poor transpiration due to potassium issues...might make more sense since the soil is fresh...you could rule out VPD issues as the others in the same room don't have it...
     
    I literally water once every 7-10 days with trees in a 15 gallon pot, you should try it out...
     

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