The Puzzle and the Banana

Discussion in 'Religion, Beliefs and Spirituality' started by Deleted member 839659, May 15, 2015.

  1. The world and universe are like pieces of a jigsaw puzzle.

    The scientists are carefully trying to fit every piece in the right spot.

    Religious people place a banana on top of the puzzle and exclaim "See it fits!"

    My point is that all the things scientists are discovering and explaining have reshaped the way we view reality.

    Abrahamic religions do not fit into this reality. As long as the fear of God runs rampant throughout the lands we will never be able to live up to our potential as a species and discover all the things that could be discovered before our species is brought to extinction - part because of the religious conviction that we'll be here for as long as God wants us here.

    Physics, biology, psychology and all the other acienses view the world in one way.

    Judaism, Christianity and Islam view the world in another.

    One side sets its beliefs based on research and evidence.

    The other on vague and ambiguous books written by dozens of men who somehow knew what message God wanted to convey to humanity - and it's suspiciously similar to the beliefs men have held for ages prior.

    God did not bring us any new and revolutionary ideas. God is deprived of any profoundness and creativity. I'd expect more from an omniscient... thing.




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  2. This is becoming redundant as fuck.
     
  3. Science does not have beliefs though. Theories and facts, theories are cool because they are easily changed when new evidence is presented. Beliefs on the other hand do not change. Even when evidence is presented, like you mentioned.

    My opinion is that people take religion too seriously. They should look to religion on how to love their life and that's it. People have become so confident that their book tells the beginning and end of the world. They condemn science because it conflicts with what was written down in a book. Not only written down, but translated a hundred times over thousands of years.

    Once people stop trying to mix religion with science or religion with politics, religion could be a wonderful thing.


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  4. Sure science and religion are two sides to your analogy, but where do the self-actualized and the philosophers sit?

    The philosopher realizes that there is no puzzle.
     
  5. #5 yurigadaisukida, May 15, 2015
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    its the biggest issue of our generation.

    Religion is the single biggest thing that effects humanity, and for the first time ever, a large ammount of people are becoming atheist.

    This is actually quote huge. You are witnessing history.

    Even in modern America Christian extremists who believe this to be a Christian nation try to force their law

    -yuri
     
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    They're watching and commenting but not actually contributing to the solving of the puzzle.
     
  7. there is no puzzel. Only a ride

    -yuri
     
  8. #8 Deleted member 839659, May 15, 2015
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    In your analogy we're all sitting in a car driving by answers. Scientists are reaching out to grab information meanwhile religious people are looking straight forward and claiming to see all the answers without trying and then arguing against the validity of what scientists have managed to grab. Who's driving tho?
     
  9. There's no one driving anything anywhere. By that I mean, space and time are constructs of the mind.
     
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    Tell Yuri, he chose the analogy.
     
  11. But you asked who's driving? I was really just messing around heading down the rabbit hole. I get bored at work sometimes ha ha
     
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    Yeah I did. It's not who is driving, it's what. Our curiosity. Religion demands the car be parked, but science wants to conquer new lands. And there's your analogy.
     
  13. Whoa there. Maybe I should clarify.

    See you are the driver and life is your adventure.

    I wouldn't say you are solving a puzzle so much as observing and enjoying.

    Puzzles are things made by man

    Scientific discoveries are just observations of nature.

    -yuri
     

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