Intelligent Life Forms

Discussion in 'Philosophy' started by breadtruck, May 8, 2015.

  1. If you are super sconed, proceed.


    Do you think there is only one intelligent life form, but all in completely different stages of life. Are we the only race that eventually evolves.

    Because I highly doubt there is a talking hippo somewhere in the universe.
     
  2. Before the talking hippos developed their brains, they would need to evolve to be physically capable of the sort of tasks an intelligent being might want to to, like gather resources and build shelters. Hands come first, then brains then planes. I think carbon based life as we know it isn't the only form of life, and that another intelligent race might exist outside our definition of life. What if several polarized rocks formed a symbiotic relationship using magnetic fields and began to acquire energy in the form of sound vibrations and heat until the vibrations began to influence the movement of the rocks in a uniform pattern as it searches for more resources to add to itself. Would that be life? Or am I just super high.
     
  3. I think hippos and all animals for that communicate or talk to each other in conversations like humans do. It may all sound the same to us, but maybe they can legit communicate. I don't think a bird can have a chat with a squirrel on how nice the weather is, thats some winnie the pooh shit. bird language vs squirrel language. spanish vs french


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  4. This is a fucking good ass post.
     
  5. That's pretty racist against hippos
     
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    lol
     
  7. #7 waktoo, May 8, 2015
    Last edited: May 8, 2015
    How does one measure/quantify the intelligence of another creature that cannot be communicated with per the "standard" measures of communication that the observing entity has seen fit to use to do so?
     
    It seems to me that many, many things can be learned about how intelligent animals are just by basic observation of how they live and interact with each other.
     
    How "evolved" are we actually, considering what we do to the environment that sustains us, all in the name of "progress"?  Homo Sapiens is only one of many species that has evolved on this planet over time.  And we are the only species on this planet that willfully destroys/pollutes (on a world wide basis) the systems that we rely upon for life.
     
    We are "dumber" than the humble non-verbal hippo.  I would be very surprised to find out that there was anything resembling what we call a "hippo" living somewhere else in the universe.  Unless it evolved in the same exact conditions as are present here on good ol' planet Earth.
     
    Are you actually asking if anyone believes in ET?
     
    I can't say for sure.  I've never seen one myself.  But I do think it's most certainly probable, given the size of the universe compared to our measly little solar system...
     
  8. Talking would be a primitive feature in intelligent beings no?
     
  9. I think what op means is, eventually all life evolves into humans.

    If we found another planet with life, it would look like ours.

    Its a valid hypothesis. I mean lets think about a few things.

    There are only a few basic shapes that can evolve for simple organisms.

    We see them all on earth.

    Earth is a actually pretty huge if you think about it. And throughout its multi billion year history, many trillions of organisms have evolved.

    If we compare our current gene pools to fossiles from the oldest records, we see trends of certain forms being dominant from the start.

    On an alien planet you might see different types of spiders, fish, and land animals. But you would still recognize them as animals, with earth animal bodies (eyes nose mouth legs etc.).

    Birds would still have aerodynamic designs, and mouths designed to eat whatever food.

    And at the top you would see a four legged land animal (most efficient form apperently) that evolved to walk on two legs and use its other legs as hands.

    This would allow manipulation of environment, and thus access to knowledge.

    Eventually the ones that could best.manipulate would become dominant, Ans you'd are a race of superinteligent bipeds.

    They'd start standing upright and adapting to their new nitch.

    as they evolve clothing and shelter, their scales/fur/feathers would fall off. Their mouths would look like omnivores mouths, not beaks or anything like that.

    Eventually they would start to resemble humans.

    -yuri
     
  10. Yes, but humans will eventually evolve into the other intelligent life forms out in the cosmos (obviously I believe we aren't the only planet that has intelligent life forms [humans])

    Responding to the other post, I agree we are the most intelligent and by far the most ignorant. I'm aware animals can communicate in ways we can't fully understand but I'm only talking about the ability to use our brains and the impact we make because of it.
     
  11. Agreed to an extent.  

    You are absolutely correct in implying that life, as it developed on Earth, would more than likely be observable in similar shapes on other planets.   As you point out, it only makes sense to do so, in order to efficiently interact with one's environment.  

    This, however only applies to planets that would have a similar environment to Earth's.  Completely different environments would evolve life to  match their own habitat.  Considering that we have yet to discover and observe even one of those,  it seems logical that we haven't the slightest clue just how diversely life can manifest.   

    In the Earth example size wise,  Earth is not actually very big at all.    In our solar system alone we are the 5th largest and are overshadowed in size by Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, and Neptune by a huge margin.   Jupiter, as the largest planet sports a radius of 43K  miles whereas we come in barely at 4K.    

    Obviously, none of these support life,  but imagine a life supporting planet with that size.  How many different environments would such a planet have considering Earth has so many already.   What kind of life could form there?  That would still only be one planet out of who knows how many.

    When it comes to space pondering, its sheer unfathomable and unexplored size seems wildly open for speculation and wonder.   Very hard to put a definite on anything.
     
     
  12. What if the dinosaurs never became extinct? If evolution works the way most believe hippos and other reptilians could indeed evolve into somewhat similar intelligence. And while I doubt they would speak French or Hippo Latin they would communicate as do animals today. If evolution is true I doubt people only evolve from ape like beings but any form of life can evolve especially if its the dominant species.
     
  13. its about the form.

    If a dinosaur evolved into an inteligeng race, it would likely use its hands and stand up straight.

    It would.lose its tail, and scales, in favor of clothing.

    I believe no matter what form it starts as, humanoid form will be the end result.

    -yuri
     
  14. Do you think intelligence always beats out predators when life plays out?

    Or is there maybe another planet ruled by sharks and dinosaurs that evolve into better killing machines instead of smarter beings?
     
  15. They could also resemble ant like aliens, like from the movie.

    Or predators, like the movie.

    I think non humanoid bodies could be intelligent too. They don't always have to be bipedal.
     
  16. on a large time scale yes.

    If you lookat planets no, bit if you look at the galaxy yes

    Planets that never evolve intelligence eventually die. Planets die eventually.

    Intelligence should be able to outlive its home planet.

    -yuri
     
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    Are you 7?
     
     
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  18. Wow, first time I've seen the typical age internet cliche made. I have an opinion, you can think ill of it all you want but thats just more immature on your part
     
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    I was playing around. Didn't realize you'd be offended, sorry.
     
  20. 8, ok. 7 = im hurt and you cant reseal these cuts
     

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