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Little Per Day vs. Large Weekly Dose

Discussion in 'Medical Marijuana Usage and Applications' started by PinkFloydEffect, May 7, 2015.

  1. I recently started using a vaporizer I am a seasoned smoker, I was always a firm believer if I could afford to eat buds I would just to improve my health (kill off bad things/keep cancer away/boost immunity/etc) now I am left with all this vaped material that most people eat. 

    I realize it is loaded with CBDs and other molecules so I am not sure how effective it will be for my health without the THC? 

    I have "000" size empty capsules I use after I crush my multivitamins, but I am not sure if I should consume a small amount every day (not enough to couch lock me and slow down my day) or if I should consume my whole weeks vaped supply once a week and use the spaced out large quantities at a time going though me. 

    Opinions? 

     
     
  2. I would space it out, but that's just me, everybody's needs are different.
     
  3. I thought you need a certain amount of it in your system to effectively kill off "bad things" in your body aka cancer etc, this is a very hard thing to choose because if you stop any medication it does not finish its job.
     
  4. #4 Galaxy420, May 9, 2015
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    there will be thc left in the vaped material as it sticks to the plant matter and does not all dis lodge in the vape process, just not a lot of it. make firecrackers with the vaped left overs, check here at GC for how to do. they have nut butter in them and the fat in the nut butter acts as a compound carrier absorption enhancer, just taking veg caps loaded with plant material will lack the carrier absorption capacity given when using an oil-fat etc...
     
    If you can figure out how to add fresh terpines into vaped remains it will be similar to using whole fresh cannabis with all the terps that are in there naturally. you can take some lemongrass essential oil along with the firecrakers but the bod will not assimilate it as cleanly or effectively as fresh cannabis with the entourage of all the compounds in one place as nature made it. 
     
    there will be more cbd than thc in the vaped remains so you will get more of those effects, you could take a tincture of high thc along with the vaped stuff to create more of a balance....
     
  5. I have heard of firecrackers they are absolutely disgusting I would have to eat so many to have an effect I have tried them before I have a really high tolerance to ingesting cannabis. What if I eat deep fried food with capsules?

    Even if I get a sleepy CBD high that would be perfect for bed time because vaping seems to be stimulating at night and not really working for me to sleep like smoking did. I do not like Nutella but I love peanut butter I buy organic oily peanut butter I actually eat peanut butter covered bananas topped with granola before bed so it may be perfect. Worst comes to worst I will just make vaped butter and cook with it, I will try some capsules first though and see if it takes too many to be effective but I am curious about a scoop of peanut butter and capsules together and how that would work. 
     
  6. here is how I do firecrackers. I end up with 3 to 3.5 grams per firecracker. if that does not zonk your ass out then IDK?
    use a glass serving bowl and mix in the abv (18 to 20 grams abv for 6 crackers) with a few tablespoons of olive oil and mix that together, next add sunflower lecithin (1 tbs) and mix that in(this is optional and soy lecithin works too). last add 8 oz( half a jar) of natural peanut butter, or almond butter and mix it till everything is good and saturated. it will look like dark peanut butter with tiny specks of abv. spread all that evenly onto 12 gram crackers then moosh them together making 6 crackers. wrap in aluminum foil and cook for 25 minutes at 350.
     
    my first time I ate two @ 7 grams total and was higher than have ever been all day long and into the night.
     
    you could just add some abv to a nut butter and mix it well and just eat it (I would let it sit and absorb for as long as possible) but I think the cooking process helps better to meld it all together cohesive like getting the differing oils as close as possible to one. they taste awesome to me with all the ones I've made. you could add raw honey and or chocolate to the mix as well.
     
  7. #7 PinkFloydEffect, May 11, 2015
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    I have a high tolerance, very seasoned but I am also young in my mid 20s. Well last night I tried eating vaped bud I packed two "000" capsules as hard as I could I was amazed how much I fit, then I put some organic butter spread in the end and ate them around 11pm...they did not do anything until I went to bed I couldn't close my eyes I was getting visual images which is strange for me. I just could not fall asleep, and I finally got up around 5am or so my whole body felt EXTREMELY heavy and I went into a pannik attack or something and I couldn't talk or walk and all my muscles were contracting and pulsing I think this triggered a mini seizure I am weak, I am going into the hospital today to see what happened I got pressure on sides of head and ears started to ring and his and I got tunnel vision tingly lips and yeah just bad bad stuff not sure if this triggered it or not but this was beyond any high!

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    Coincidentally my buddie stopped by earlier in that day with an oil rig and that was the 3rd time I ever dabbed and regardless of how much I smoke I have never been so high in my life then it went away by that evening but I am wondering if I had too much in my system still and ingesting it put me over the edge and "built off of" the dab high I was coming off of.
     
  8. #9 puddleglum, May 11, 2015
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    I love the effects of ABV (already been vaped herb) edibles. I have two different techniques that I use, depending on my mood:
     
    1. Combine the ABV with vegetable oil (I like coconut or olive) and simmer at controlled temperature using a double boiler or slow cooker. Strain the solids out of the oil and discard. Use the oil in cooking.
     
    or
     
    2. Grind the ABV to a powder using a coffee grinder or similar. Add this powder to the dry ingredients in a recipe like brownies, cookies, cake.
     
    If you are having any negative side effects from ABV edibles, then I recommend choosing method 1 instead of method 2. Reason being that the MJ plant is fiberous and indigestible, so if you filter the solids out of the oil, it will be easier on your digestion with fewer side effects.
     
    I get a nice relaxing effect from a dose of 0.25g of ABV, fantastic for treating my insomnia. Everyone's tolerance is a little different, so your mileage may vary. [​IMG]
     
  9. damn bro I am sorry to hear that. abv is nothing to play around with as it can be strong to the 10th power. there is something people have been using to offset the thc paranoia but cannot remember what it is. I'll check and get back @ U
     
    I have had the best bowel movements next day after having brownies that i just added/cooked the herb into and ate without straining anything out. there is certainly lots of fiber there and if your digestion can handle it is a good way to facilitate an internal cleansing. getting your colon high seems to help it move/push everything through better as well.
     
  10. AVB works great in hot coco. 
     
    ingredients:
    1) .5 to 1 gram of AVB, crushed up to the point of powder if you can.
    2) cup of whole milk
    3) few table spoons of heavy whipping cream {not needed, i just like the texture it gives hot coco and it has a bit higher fat content.
    4) chocolate syrup to taste {enough to make the chocolate just turn brown is perfect for me}
    5) 1 square of milk chocolate
    6) 1 square of dark chocolate
    7) 1 square of caramel
     
    directions:
    add the milk, cream, AVB, chocolate syrup,chocolate and caramel squares and then heat over low - medium. say a 4 or 5 on the stove and i set the timer for 4.5 to 5 minutes so i know when to go check and it doesn't boil over. remember to come stir but not until a minute or two has passed so the everything melts together. then drink it and get fucked up. hits in an hour to 90 minutes for me.
     
    tips:
    measure out the AVB you are going to use and then mash it between 2 spoons over the coco when you are heating the milk. never use your fingers as the good stuff can stick and you lose valuable potency. if you do it with spoons then you can stir the coco when it is piping hot and melt what ever good stuff stuck the the spoons.
     
    when i am dosing the hot coco, i do it like this: fresh decarbed bud is typically 2 to 3 times stronger then AVB so use half as much when you dose. if i was using 1 gram of AVB then i would use say .5 or a little less of fresh decarbed bud. you don't want to ever in your life eat to much and get to fucked up. it is a horribly terrible experience as pretty much everyone who has experienced it hates it. so go easy or you will be power stoned for days and days.
     
    it usually takes 1 hour to 90 minutes to start to feel the effects to being full blown stoned. there are times however when it could take 2 to 3 hours to feel anything. so always wait 2 or 3 hours the first time you use a batch of AVB or decarbed bud to test its potency. again, being too high on edibles is a nightmare and it fucking sucks a bag of old salty dicks.
     
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  11. Sounds like some rich thick hot chocolate, I really do not like the taste of cannabis I find it offensive but I may try something in hot chocolate sometime!
     
    I have never tried the capsule again lol however I did use 7 grams of AVB mixed with tons of kief and let it sit with some of that natural oil butter on a low simmer in water for almost 2 hours then strained through reusable metal coffee filter basket...made for some very potent butter!

    I used the butter to make a loaf of blueberry bread using muffin mix....holy strong! Haha I get so baked when I eat this and it does not take much...I eat it after dinner and by the time i go to relax Im starting to feel it and my eyes go bloodshot by bed time its perfect :) makes me sleepy again compared to vaporizing. 
     
    I swear AVB is stronger than using straight flowers in the butter with the vaporizing temp "activating" it? I do save all my stems and I put them in the freezer in a bag...the crystals get brittle and I smash the bag up and fondle it when it gets full and I end up with a golden layer on the bottom...I shake it all through a reusable metal coffee filter basket over a piece of computer paper and you would be amazed how easy it is to extract a LOT of kief from your stems the freezer is the trick to make the crystals fall off. That pile went into the butter as well its real strong :)
     
  12. you have some happy stems there :).  I put my herb through some heavy heat making for a very dark abv but it still has lots of actives left even when dark brown.
     

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