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Holding off Stage 4 liver cancer with high cbd cannabis oil

Discussion in 'Medical Marijuana Usage and Applications' started by lbezphil2005, Apr 30, 2015.

  1. Since 2012 i've been fighing hepatitis c genotype 6a/b, which i got from a blood transfusion in 1987.  the hep c is in remission but i developed liver cancer last year, and in june they removed the 3rd lobe.  After recovery i started treatment again for hepatitis when they found that not only had the cancer come back but had already spread from my liver to my right lung and adrenal gland.  I go see my oncologist today, but so far, while my numbers, especially my alkaline phosphatase has climbed quite a bit, I am still physically dointg pretty well, not too much swelling, just a little.  THe oil im using is homemade and i have no idea how much cbd/thc is in it, but tomorrow i am heading to the dispensary, where they have 44% cbd by volume rso made organically.  again, not sure of the thc values but since it does have quite a bit of cbd in it hoping for a lot more tumor shrinkage, if i cant get these numbers down soon im going to be in big rtrouble and there is no treatment, no chemo, no nothing for what i have.  i've cut out all sugars, eating really healthy, broccolli, kale smoothies, etc.  no white flour products, no processed sugars in anything.  wish me luck, pray, chant, i need it all - its been a tough fight and its getting tougher by the day..  much love!!!

     
  2. Good luck and keep us posted!
     
    Keep your head up! I'll be crossing my fingers for you
     
    SJ
     
  3. Hang in there. I send you good thoughts.

    I'm in CA and have a high CBD plant right now. I've been working on a plan to give clones away to people who need it. I wish I could give you a couple of clones.

    If I had the ability, I would breed her for the seeds so I could put them in an envelope and stamp on them and get them out there.

    Are you doing full extraction or just managing the symptoms with cannabis?

    If you really want to use cannabis to it's full extent, you should get on a full extraction regiment. RSO is a form of a full extraction method.
    You really have to start with a large amount of cannabis, like a pound. Two pounds is more ideal. Remember, this is to start. I notice that cannabis helps in so many ways that we can only begin to imagine.

    Do you have a support system consisting of friends and family members? Use them as much as possible so you can focus on getting healthy as much as you can.

    I'm sure others will chime in with suggestions and/or help.

    E
     
  4. you are in the our families prayers every night from this day forth! i am a stage 4 cancer survivor. i had an abdominal mass the size of 2 fists there abouts or so. it was resting on my pelvis, attached to my spine {L1-L4}, lymph nodes compromised and spots of cancer in my brain and lungs. this was back in 1991.
     
    fast forward to today. i am still alive and so are you. you are not done until you are in the ground. you can do this. you can, i for one actually know it. sounds like you have a plan of attack and are following it. well done! it also sounds like the RSO is working for you with little side effects or you are at least able to handle said side effects. this is also very good! sounds like you have a diet in place and are eating healthy. again, you are right where you need to be! i would recommend juicing. it was a game changer for me. i still do it to this very day. i can get so much good healthy nutrition down my gullet far easier then if i were trying to eat all of that food. you can even juice raw cannabis leaves for an even healthier punch to your diet. 
     
    i have the ninja juicer and i love it. i like it so much because it pulverizes everything you put in it. you don't throw anything away which is far better for me because i have a hard time eating. it works so well for me because i can put all sorts of things in there, mix with a juice of my choosing, blend and drink! i put nuts and grains in the drink i make. oils of various kinds to aid in my health and digestion like coconut oil and grape seed oil. this has been a game changer for me. truly it has. to be able to drink enough nutrition to keep my weight up and to keep me feeling energized. 
     
    proper nutrition and a proper positive attitude and you are that much closer to being cancer free my friend! i just cant say enough about staying positive and happy. if you are feeling down then find someone or something to cheer you up. i had a few people i could call at anytime day or night and they would be over to help me out or they would be on the phone with me for however long i needed. {i was in the hospital for weeks at a time so a phone call was the only way to talk to people sometimes}. if you need someone to talk to i would be more then happy to give you my number to chat, day or night. 
     
    oh and a couple more things. reading is one. for me it was a way to keep my mind going when my body was failing. it had, at times, kept one foot moving in front of the other. it would allow me to separate my mind from the woes of my body and all of the suffering i was going through. music was another really good form of healing through positive attitude and positive thinking. i listened to all kinds of music and i found my favorite at that time was of all things classical spanish guitar. there was something so uplifting about it. it also allowed me to get all of the negative and frustrating emotions out of my system. sometimes i cried, sometimes i screamed and some times i laughed. but i was always able to get free of the crushing defeatist attitude and depression.
     
    i hope i was able to give you at least a little bit of help and relief. [​IMG]
     
    PS..
    if you find yourself in need of someone to talk to i am always available. just hit me up for my number. i am a disabled vet and pretty much just sit around smoking ganja most of the day. the physical nature of my disability leaves me at home most of the time anyway lol! 
     
  5. #5 bistroman, May 8, 2015
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    [SIZE=medium]Hi Everybody, i am from Turkey, working as an industrial engineer in a popular iron steel factory.[/SIZE]
    [SIZE=medium]Ä° am from Turkiye, i am industrial engineer and have been working since 2004 in one of the biggest wire rod and steel producer called ISDEMIR Inc.Co   (http:www.isdemir.com.tr)[/SIZE]
     
    [SIZE=medium]My father is 69 years old, he had colon cancer operation 1,5 years ago, and the doctor took some part of it which has tumors. Ä°t was a successful operation, but doctor said that he would urgently start chemo, becase, it spreaded to LIVER stage IV.[/SIZE]
     
    [SIZE=medium]Last month, he has his 17th chemo, tumors got smaller, but not disappereared, chemo stopped enlarging of tumors at least. But he is still in risk of course. He has only tumors on his liver, so i decided to research better alternative and writing to people to help my father.[/SIZE]
     
    [SIZE=medium]He had never smoke, no alcohol, no tension, sugar, heart disease, and anything else, 3 months ago he is flying with parachute.  He is eating well now and can drive with car, no problem and nobody understand his cancer disease with outside appearence[/SIZE]
     
    [SIZE=medium]Could you please advise me any alternative treatment? i heard cannabis oil is well known among cancer patients, and most of them are glad and says they survived by this oil. Where can i have a good original source of Rick Simpson Oil?[/SIZE]
    [SIZE=medium]Ä° have a Turkish friend living in America and he is selling wafl in wafl Truck [/SIZE]
    [SIZE=medium] Ä° have another friend living in England and he is the  [/SIZE]Business Development Manager at UK CARES, he was my manager in my current company
     
    [SIZE=medium]These 2 person can help and send me and buy it on hand for me. or i  can buy online if i am sure it is the original source with 90%thc and enough CBD oil in it.[/SIZE]
     
    [SIZE=medium]Looking forward to hearing from you soon help me plzzz. help for my dad[/SIZE]
     
    [SIZE=medium]Regards,[/SIZE]
     
  6. #6 bistroman, May 8, 2015
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    [SUB][SIZE=medium]Ä° am from Turkiye, i am industrial engineer and have been working since 2004 in one of the biggest wire rod and steel producer[/SIZE][/SUB]
     
    [SUB][SIZE=medium]My father is 69 years old, he had colon cancer operation 1,5 years ago, and the doctor took some part of it which has tumors. Ä°t was a successful operation, but doctor said that he would urgently start chemo, becase, it spreaded to LIVER stage IV.[/SIZE][/SUB]
     
    [SUB][SIZE=medium]Last month, he has his 17th chemo, tumors got smaller, but not disappereared, chemo stopped enlarging of tumors at least. But he is still in risk of course. He has only tumors on his liver, so i decided to research better alternative and writing to people to help my father.[/SIZE][/SUB]
     
    [SUB][SIZE=medium]He had never smoke, no alcohol, no tension, sugar, heart disease, and anything else, 3 months ago he is flying with parachute.  He is eating well now and can drive with car, no problem and nobody understand his cancer disease with outside appearence[/SIZE][/SUB]
     
    [SUB][SIZE=medium]Could you please advise me any alternative treatment? i heard cannabis oil is well known among cancer patients, and most of them are glad and says they survived by this oil. Where can i have a good original source of Rick Simpson Oil?[/SIZE][/SUB]
    [SUB][SIZE=medium]Ä° have a Turkish friend living in America and he is selling wafl in wafl Truck [/SIZE][/SUB]
    [SUB][SIZE=medium] Ä° have another friend living in England as company's manager.[/SIZE][/SUB]
     
    [SUB][SIZE=medium]These 2 person can help and send me and buy it on hand for me. or i  can buy online if i am sure it is the original source with 90%thc and enough CBD oil in it.[/SIZE][/SUB]
     
    [SUB][SIZE=medium]Looking forward to hearing from you soon[/SIZE][/SUB]
     
    [SUB][SIZE=medium]Regards,[/SIZE][/SUB]
     
  7. you are in turkey, isn't there somewhere you could buy hashish? you could then make RSO, an oil that is what most use to medicate to the levels required to have an effect on the cancer. 
     
    if you can get the hashish or just the raw marijuana then we could better get you the directions to make the oil yourself. it isn't hard, consumes just a little bit of your time as it slowly works its magic. when it is done then you are ready to use it. please, please, please be careful and follow  all directions to the letter and skipping no steps unless the recipe calls for it. 
     
    unfortunately i don't see a way to send RSO through the mail. it is going to be very difficult and would probably get you in a lot of trouble in turkey if you were to be caught receiving drugs in the mail. it is pretty scary what happens if you break the law here in the U.S. and try to send drugs through the mail. it is also against the terms and rules of the forum. so please, try and find a good reputable source where you live at. someone has to have some high grade marijuana or hashish and when you tell people why you want it and what it is you are doing with it they will be more apt to help you. i know i most certainly would. 
     
    here is something i found to be a life altering game changer, juicing. juice everything and i mean everything! i use OJ and then a bunch of greens. add things like garlic, orange peel, broccoli, etc, etc  for an amazingly good and healthy drink. i  am able to eat enough now and keep my weight up. i am a cancer survivor as well. it happened in 1991 and i deal with a bunch of health problems associated with the cancer and its treatment. so i juice and i live pretty happy because of it. you do this for your dad and he too will feel better. 
     
    good luck in your search my friend. post back with questions or what not. [​IMG]
     
  8. I have a little advice for you guys. Be sure you are getting Omega 3 in your diet (wild-caught salmon and grass-fed beef are good, for the vegetable sources- flax seeds, hemp seeds, walnuts, and some algae which vitamin companies are extracting the Omega 3 from.)
     
    An imbalance in Omega 3 (too little) and Omega 6 (way too much) has been linked to various cancers. (FYI- I have divided the abstract into paragraphs for easier reading, but made no changes to the text)
     
    The importance of the ratio of omega-6/omega-3 essential fatty acids.  http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12442909
     
    Several sources of information suggest that human beings evolved on a diet with a ratio of omega-6 to omega-3 essential fatty acids (EFA) of approximately 1 whereas in Western diets the ratio is 15/1-16.7/1. Western diets are deficient in omega-3 fatty acids, and have excessive amounts of omega-6 fatty acids compared with the diet on which human beings evolved and their genetic patterns were established.
     
    Excessive amounts of omega-6 polyunsaturated fatty acids (PUFA) and a very high omega-6/omega-3 ratio, as is found in today's Western diets, promote the pathogenesis of many diseases, including cardiovascular disease, cancer, and inflammatory and autoimmune diseases, whereas increased levels of omega-3 PUFA (a low omega-6/omega-3 ratio) exert suppressive effects.
     
    In the secondary prevention of cardiovascular disease, a ratio of 4/1 was associated with a 70% decrease in total mortality. A ratio of 2.5/1 reduced rectal cell proliferation in patients with colorectal cancer, whereas a ratio of 4/1 with the same amount of omega-3 PUFA had no effect. The lower omega-6/omega-3 ratio in women with breast cancer was associated with decreased risk.
     
    A ratio of 2-3/1 suppressed inflammation in patients with rheumatoid arthritis, and a ratio of 5/1 had a beneficial effect on patients with asthma, whereas a ratio of 10/1 had adverse consequences.
     
    These studies indicate that the optimal ratio may vary with the disease under consideration. This is consistent with the fact that chronic diseases are multigenic and multifactorial. Therefore, it is quite possible that the therapeutic dose of omega-3 fatty acids will depend on the degree of severity of disease resulting from the genetic predisposition. A lower ratio of omega-6/omega-3 fatty acids is more desirable in reducing the risk of many of the chronic diseases of high prevalence in Western societies, as well as in the developing countries, that are being exported to the rest of the world.
     
    If you are eating an "average American diet", you may have a 15/1-16.7/1 ratio of Omega 6 to Omega 3. Diet is a lot more important than many folks know!
     
    Another little gem I picked up at PubMed is that limonene can fight several kinds of cancers. Limonene is found in both lemon grass and "lemony" cannabis (making lemony strains good bets for RSO). A cup or so of lemon grass tea a day wouldn't hurt, and may help! (I just grabbed a random limonene/ cancer study at Pubmed))
     
    Human breast tissue disposition and bioactivity of limonene in women with early-stage breast cancer.http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23554130
     
    "We conclude that limonene distributed extensively to human breast tissue and reduced breast tumor cyclin D1 expression that may lead to cell-cycle arrest and reduced cell proliferation."
     
     
    And I am certain that you will all find this post to be good reading!
    http://forum.grasscity.com/medical-marijuana-usage-applications/1130359-tumors-really-shrinking.html#post16220325
     
     
     
    Granny
     
  9. I ran out of lemongrass for over a week and noticed as each day went on how my mood went way down. it helps elevate mood and really is invigorating too. thanks for the info!
     
  10. Thanks for your support!  The tumor on my lung has almost disappeared, the adrenal gland, however, grew just a bit from 2.6 cm to 3.4.  consuming around 2 grams of oil a day, right now.  Full extraction rso, made by YAK edibles - they have a hospice program, supposedly, in the bay area.
     
    I'm in California, too - I'm growing from seed as access to clones involves driving 7 hours round trip or better, but I have some possibilities coming up.  pm me, maybe we can work something out.
     
    I"m with he other guy - find some local hashish, should have plenty of thc/cbd in it, you would probably need one hundred to two hundred grams for a full treatment,  look up the run from the cure video and make it.  I think they should have naptha in turkey, too, not sure about 190 proof grain alchohol.  in fact, I KNOW some decent Turkish hash would do the trick, that's some bomb stuff you guys have over there.
     
    Granny Storm Crow, keep up the fantastic work and thank you for that info, not sure what my intake is but I believe my levels are pretty good, never been much of a western diet kinda person - except for steak, hmmmmmmm.  lol!! 
     
    I thought red meat was bad and fed cancer growth - does this mean I can have a big fat juicy tbone or porterhouse?  [​IMG] [​IMG]
     
  11. Disabled Electrician, How's it going for you?  Any more tumor shrinkage?  Are you feeling better?  I'm sure you are overwhelmed with everything, but keep us informed when you have some down time.  Posting on medical marijuana forums and talking with real people, going through similar things, is important and valuable.   Wishing you the best health!
     
  12. #12 lbezphil2005, Jun 23, 2015
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    really quick - feeling good, eating well still, i go see the oncologist monday of next week and go have blood work done this wednesday, come monday afternoon or tuesday hopefully i will have some seriously either good or bad info, either way by now i should have had time to get this stuff degraded some at least - hoping my afp marker has dropped considerably (my oncologist said that the 22518 number i had in february was the highest he'd ever seen in anyone. all he can tell me is "im sorry, not much i can do but keep an eye on symptoms"). the people i am getting the oil thru have a doctor they work with, I'm getting a wheat grass juicer to start juicing, also working on getting a decent vape and will start eating leaves as the plants grow. I've got hazeman's rmh x herijuana, 88 g13/hp and monkeyballs, gage greens 2013 diamonds and dust, motarebels harlequin bx1 x long bottom leaf, greenman420's copper rhino and shishkatonic, from irg crunk, gfba, warlock, and afghan 88, i've also got some personal crosses done by a good friend from gage greens grape puff x cherry puff and journeyman x cherry puff, purple erkle and blueberry from clones from my local dispensary, oh i almost forgot kinetic genetics blue mediberry f3 (black pheno), monkey princess, blue zorrila, chunk berry and melting pot, also got some of bohdi's afkanistan x talk of kabul going too. will be starting z6, medicine man, nordle from mr nice seeds and the cbd crew, as well as more quad kush from kinetic genetics, looking for seeds/clones of charlottes web and any other high cbd plant i can get hold of, I'm in the central valley in California near the foothills, 4 hours one way from san francisco or los angeles.


    Will give you guys an update and post some plant pics coming up monday or tuesday, thank you all for your well wishes and prayers, I need all the positive energy i can gather!!


    Lemonenes - i just harvested a mr nice nl5/hz, nice foxtailed buds that reeks of lemons and incense. just hung it up this morning, really looking forward to the smoke! (will start freezing fresh bud when I have a juicer, in the mean time everything goes to smoke or rso)!!

     
  13. My girl friend (stage 4 ovarian) has been on it for 23 days and she's having a hard time with the funky feeling the oil gives her. I have to think it is worth it if it means it's killing the cancer. I'm encouraging her to stick with it and to let her know that anytime you have high doses of medicine in you, it's bound to make you feel off, weird, spacey or what ever. Better than feeling pain from cancer or chemo. She decided to stick with it a bit longer (tumor marker check) and see if it's actually doing anything for her.


    Go ahead and post, even if it is not working. Even if you think you might "disappoint" folks here looking for hope. It's better that we have an honest account of your experience so people can go in to in knowing more what to expect. From what I have gathered, it seems to work in about 70% of the cases but again all antidotal. Yes, we are sending you well wishes, prayers and good energy. I sure hope you are having functioning days and your mind is not at worry.
     
  14. Tell your girlfriend to not give up - part of the healing is having the medicine make you feel tired, sleepy - thats a good thing, the body at rest works harder to heal than a body constantly up and around. do you know how big a dose she is taking? maybe she can cut down on the amount per dose and just take a few more doses during the day? I use gel caps, some i fill with a gram, some a half gram. if i need to get stuff done i take the half grams, if i can just rest i take the gram doses and i will take it 2 to 3 times a day.. Encourage her to be strong an think positive - if she thinks the treatment will work its gonna work, but if she has doubts, well, the mind can interfere with what our bodies actually need, so she needs to try and BELIEVE its gonna work. the doctor that is supervising my oil regimen insists that having a positive outlook is 95% of the success of the treatment. in otherwords, if you don't believe its going to work it probably won't, only because your mind isn't cooperating with the medicine. Does that make sense?

     
  15. She's doing a gram a night. I told her much of what you just said here. I heard some people take it like an enema to get away from the "spacey" effects but I can't help thinking one would still get that effect whether it went down the throat or up the bum, so to speak. But I like the idea of the half gram gel caps incase she has something important to do the next day. As long as she's getting her full 60 grams at the end. (I have her following the RSO regime) Thanks Ibezphil.
     
  16. Babies in the closet - gage greens diamonds and dust, kinetic genetics blue mediberry, quad kush

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    Ice River Genetics Warlock fem

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    Ice River Genetics Crunk
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    Another Crunk
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    Hazeman's RMH x Herijuana
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    Ice River Genetics Afghan 88 #3
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    Afghan 88 #4
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    Afghan 88 #1
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    Gage Greens Diamonds and Dust #1
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  17. I'll be looking for some RSO soon because today sucks a bag of donkey dicks. My girlfriend had a biopsy on Monday and today the doctor told her she has cancer (lobular carcinoma). Even though we've only been with each other a little over 2 years, I love her so fucking hard it makes my heart ache to think of ever being without her. I live in Minnesota so I'll have to start doing my homework on how to acquire this. Might need to take a trip out to Colorado.


     
  18. Not sure what michigan offers but its closer to you, anyway. theYou need to have real, true cannabis oil, not hemp oil - you need some thc with cbd's, its not just cbd that cures cancer. its easy enough to make if you have an area thats well ventilated, otherwise look for it already made.

     
  19. Best of luck to you. I've lost a close family member to cancer which spread out to his entire body until he could barely move then it happened. I hope it does not happen to you, my uncle looked like he was in a huge amount of pain but I sure hope this combats your problems to the extent where you can live a full, happy life.
     
  20. Hell yeah man keep it up!!
    My dad just scored some Cbd oil from CO (with THC) and were wondering the best way to ingest it without a empty pill capsule to put it in. Any help on this would be appreciated.
    Somewhat off topic, is the Green Dragon recipe (I believe it's the same idea as RSO) superior to that of RSO? I would like to try making either or but, I will only be working with an Ounce and probably at most 4 Ounces at a time. Would this be considered a waste if I, per say, waited till I could afford to use a pound of bud. Btw this is for cancer treatment.
     

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