Clones From Afar...

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  1. #1 waktoo, Apr 20, 2015
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    Anyone ever taken cuttings from a friend and them transported them home to prepare?

    Will cloning work successfully if a take a much longer cut than is needed, and then cutting it to the proper length and preparing as usual?

    I'm wondering if possible aneurisms embolisms (thanks wet'!) are going to be a problem...
     
    All opinions are welcome, but I'm really looking for some insight from those that have actually done this.
     
    Oh, and these cuts that I'll be transporting will come from large outdoor plants...
     
  2. Aneurysms? I would wrap the stems in wet paper towels and put them into a big zip lock bag to keep the humidity up until you can get them home. Taking a slightly bigger cutting would help, but I wouldn't go much more than a node past the one you want the roots coming from. Then trim back right before putting into your rooting process of choice.
     
  3. #3 SoloToker, Apr 20, 2015
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    I was kinda thinking the opposite of Chef. If I was going to try this I'd take a branch if possible and try to get a couple cuts off of it. Wrap the branch's cut end in a moist cloth or something. I remember getting little trees in school and the bases were wrapped in a paper towel. Also, just a thought, when I had a male a while back, per Coots advice, I cut branches off, placed them in a jar of water, and stuck them under a single cfl out in the garage and it continued to live until it flowered and released the pollen to be collected. I'd say it was in the jar for well over a week and looked beautiful until I was done with it. I have no real science for my response, just something I'd try.

    Solo
     
  4. #4 waktoo, Apr 20, 2015
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    Air bubble stuck in the stem that ultimately kills the clone.
     
    Hence my thought on the long stem.  If it's several inches longer than what the clone ultimately will be, my thought was that any trapped air bubble would be cut out when I prepare the clone at home.
     
    The aneurism thing might be all in my head.  I've had all sorts of issues with cloning in the past (been running straight seeds for the past 2+ years), and air bubbles stuck in the stem is one of the many possible reasons that I've read about that might have been causing my problems.  'Course more in depth research into the subject has proven to me that my problems have most likely been due to several other things that I've been doing wrong/not doing...
     
    What I remember reading about in the past is that the final cut on the stem to make the clone should be done under water in order to prevent any air from entering the stem.  In retrospect, this may only apply to "woody" stems which tend to be more hollow, and don't make for good cloning material anyway. 
     
    This last round of clones that I took from my own indoor grow oozed sap immediately after being cut, so I didn't even bother with the underwater cutting technique.  My concern is that the branch cuts that I'll be taking from my friend will be much larger and more mature due to the fact that they're going to be from outdoor plants, and might have hollow stems.
     
  5. Hey wak I think that might work out for ya, just cut er a bit longer and do the final cut when your about to stick it in the cloner. I've heard the aneurysms thing before... But it doesn't make sense! How do bubble cloners work then? Besides really well IME. I'd say if your real worried take a longer cut than you need, wrap it in a wet paper towel, and do the final cut at home. I think the underwater cut is a step too far. But hey, why not if your having a rough time. If it's a woody stem you will have problems, younger and more supple the better. If it's half way woody (lol) use a knife and scrap off the out level of the stem.
     
  6. I don't recall Coot ever saying anything about taking the cut under water in his process. Just saying....

    I don't do it either and have 60-100% success rate depending on cultivars. Some will root in anything and others I take extras because I know they're stubborn.

    Solo
     
  7. For transporting long distances or shipping I've always used 6" x 6" x 6" Grodan Rockwool Blocks. Rockwool is used by mainstream nurseries for shipping cuttings a lot. It's almost impossible to lose a single one.
     
    For short trips, ChefZiggy's advice is way more than enough to keep them viable. If you saw how cuttings are handled at huge commercial nurseries you'd find it hard to fathom. Monrovia Nursery's operation in Oregon processes over 20,000 cuttings per week. 
     
    By the standards of the average cannabis grower it's definitely tough love
     
    CC
     
  8. A glass of water in the cupholder ;)  
     
  9.  
    Not the way I drive!  [​IMG]
     
  10. Same here [​IMG]
     
  11.  
    My christmas crop was all from clones from a friend, I cut them off and shoved them in solo cups of water till I got them home.
     
  12. crazy drives in here [​IMG]  LOL stick 'em in some cubes then and strap 'em in! :D
     
  13. I have actually done this although many years ago. Did as Coot mentioned, but it was 3x3x3" RW cubes. That's what we used for cloning at the time (1992), worked like a champ. Also used a gel to seal the end of the cut and trimmed some of the larger fan leaves.

    BTW, it's embolism (air bubble). An aneurism is a weak spot in an artery that blows out, like a tire tube.

    The main thing is to seal the cut and keep transpirition down.

    Wet
     
  14. ^^^^ This. I want to say I've done this 10-15 times. It's exactly what I've done and I know for a fact that it works just fine.

    J
     
  15. Just need to drive like a sane person. LOL

    Wet
     
  16. Jerry's preferred method of transporting cuttings!
     
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9qYF9DZPdw&spfreload=10
     
  17. #17 pointswest, Apr 20, 2015
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    I use a cup of perlite, fill the cup with water to moisten the perlite, then pour out half the water and insert the cuttings into the damp perlite for transport.  I move clones over 150 miles with this method with no problems, or wilting.  Re-cut the cutting when home then stick into your media.
     
    PW
     
  18. He could always use a throwaway coffee or drink cup with a lid; just poking some holes they the lid, packing some rags around the cups in a box. Easy peasy.

    I always liked the water in a cup method. It makes me feel a lot better knowing the cut end is submerged and cannot get an embolism or dry out etc. I like soaking the end of the clone for an hour or too anyhow so...

    J
     
  19. #19 waktoo, Apr 20, 2015
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    Good catch, wet'!  When I was typing it, I thought it sounded "off".
     
    Should have looked it up...
     
     
    THIS!  This is what is going to work the best for me. 
     
    While I'm not necessarily a crazy driver, I do have a lot of curved paved road and bumpy/curved gravel road to travel in between here and there.  "Splash factor" and stability were certainly concerns of mine...
     
    Well, not anymore.  Thanks p-dub!
     
     
    And thanks to all who have contributed...
     
  20. hey waktoo :) maybe you can use the travel drink carriers from starbucks or a fast food place. make them easier to load and unload, keep em a bit more steady and if you used the plastic huge cups from McD's with the lids, i bet you could add the perlite half way up, then fill the cup with water 25% like pokesmot suggested, stick your cuttings in there and then put the lid on giving it a discreet look.
     
    sounds like a fun trip :D hopefully not more than a days drive. travel safe!
     

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