New Method of Growing anyone?

Discussion in 'Advanced Growing Techniques' started by thefloweringman, Mar 31, 2015.

  1. I decided to get involved again because depending on others to be as punctual as a smoker would be when getting a bag when he has none, drives me up a wall. I have experience with hydroponics, that was the only way I wanted to do it, at first, then bamb, I did it, and was extremely fun, and dammed expensive. I still have everything, chemicals, lights, nutes, facility, but I am not in the position to buy any of this stuff again right now if I were to run out in mid course and how much would that suck.....?!

    I did some research on a nonsense issue with my yard, and ran into something on YouTube about aquaponics. WHAT? I can raise fish and and nearly any plant I want , and I don't need all the chemicals anymore? Why not give this some thought......I did, I found out that I don't have to empty out and refill 5 gal. Buckets up and down stairs, the water goes nowhere other than the plants, and evaporation. The expense I have starting up the ebb n flow Rez and table aquaponics is 8.00 in Goldie's, and 2 koi. The seeds sprouted, and are bedded in 4" of hydroton, river rock and lava rock totaling 12" deep. About 50.00 total. All I have to do is feed the fish, watch the ph in the tank, and flower with maxicrop for the PK portion of growing. And watch my fish grow, there waste and tank water floods the bed every 30 minutes, and the red worms and the earth worms, eat the solids, and poo out nutes along with the nutes from the fish waste ammonia. No flushing, at the end of the grow, the ph is buffered by the bacteria throughout the grow. The Rez temp stays 70-75 degrees and full, sweeeet! So in less than a week 14 of 15 seeds sprouted and are showing their second set of leaves already. Quick note, once they sprouted I only flooded the table 2 times a day, because rock wool retains moisture well. Gave the tap roots a chance to find water growing downwards, now after inspection of a couple little seedlings, I turned the timer to every hour, and OMFG!!!! Not 2 days after the first 2 real leaves showed up, the 2nd true set are coming out, I never experienced this kind of acceleration in growth in hydroponics, w.w. Was my fav by the way..... I just though I would share aquaponics and its ease compared to nearly any other growing, good luck with your grows and I will update significant progress



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  2. would there be any way of containing it like similar to a bio-orb? or terrarium? making an ecosystem out of a room?
     
  3. would love to get into a project like this. involving your GPP:NPP, this could be as complex wanted to go. although would you need to have 2 sets of lights? one for your aqua system and 2 for your above ground weed?
     
  4. I have never herd of biodome, it's aquaponics, and I'm loving it, no worries, feed the fish leave the lights on and it does its own circulation thins and I don't have to stress over it, i obviously do research anytime I am sitting down, but very cool though......


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  5. Gpp, npp?



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  6. too much nitrogen its only a matter of time...unnatural growth always has consequences
     
  7. Not into growing myself(yet) but this is very cool and something I would love to tackle in the future.  Adding this to my bucket list.
     
    If you get around to it throw some pictures up.  I am sure many of us would love to see them.
     
    Never in a million years would have thought fish and worms could be used for growing.
     
  8. Too much nitrogen? And the only thing unnatural is the savings and ease...once u get started, no flush, closed loop ecosystem, just watch it happen... sorry it's dark in the tank so my pics would come out well
     

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  9. #9 SupaAPE, Apr 8, 2015
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    @OP can you please make an aquaponics log for any of us interested ?
     
  10. Absolutely, I will start it tonight and keep track weekly if u want....
     
  11. Search for " closed circuit aquaponics
     
  12. Yeah I read about this in a few grow mags about a yr ago..it is very intriguing..good luck with it bro.
     
  13. I have had an aquaponic set up with a variety of plants and its fine for leaf crops but plants but mine did not fruit very well. A few small cherry tomatoes is all.
     
  14. People have been doing aquaponics for a long time.  I live down the street from a place that grows organic aquaponic veggies.  Problem is it doesn't work too well when it comes to flowering mj.  But very cool either way.
     
  15. You can only grow green leafy vegetables and plants with aquaponics.  There isn't enough phosphorus in the system to support adequate flowering.  If you try to add phosphorus to the system it becomes toxic to the fish.
     
    Its already been tried by countless people and it won't work unless you find a species of fish that is immune to high levels of phosphorus in the water.
     
  16. Shrimps feeds contain higher amounts of phosphorus then fish feeds..something to think about. Idk
     
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    The easiest way to tell water is clean is the presence of shrimp, they need very clean water to live.  I think you'd seriously struggle to maintain an environment adequate to keep shrimp alive, yet high enough in nutrients to allow MJ to thrive.  
     
    All the viable aquaponic setups I've seen had tilapia for the fish crop which is a very hearty freshwater fish.  It can take the conditions that most other fish just could not tolerate.  It's the fish they found being farmed in the sewers in China a few years ago, that's hearty.  It's also a good fish from a food perspective, which is the eventual goal.  Hope you have a big backyard, because all the viable set ups were also very big and expensive.  I just don't see it being a realistic goal as far as marijuana is concerned, but it is a great system of sustainable farming.  I can dig up some links for reputable videos as I am fascinated by it too.
     
    Good luck, hope you prove me wrong.
     
  18. #18 ludachris420, Apr 18, 2015
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    Lol..not me.im a soil man bro. I agree would take up way to much space for me.point is there IS species of fish that thrive in high phosphate levels.plants can also uptake phosphorus through the leaves, I could really care less. I don't even eat fish much less care to use then to grow my cannabis. you act like cannabis will not grow in low phosphorus environments.of course they will not thrive as much as they do in a perfect environment but cannabis can grow in a huge array of environments. So could the plant grow this way? Yes.. would it be the quality that we have now reached with cannabis? Maybe and probably not but saying the plant would not grow is incorrect. I've grown shitty cannabis in the sand with just water 20 yrs ago.oh how did this species of plant ever survive 2000 plus yrs without all these perfect levels of nutrients. Yes the cannabis plant is not really a weed,yes it benefits more with proper nutrients but it also is very resilient and can survive without all these high levels of nutrients. Science coming into cannabis cultivation is a blessing and a curse at the same time. What science can not contest is how long the plant survived without it.
     
  19. #19 homer simpson, Apr 18, 2015
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    Read my post again brother.
     
    And even though I quoted you I meant for the majority of the reply for the OP, you posed the shrimp phosphorous connection so I just explained best I could why this wouldn't work.
     
    Never put effort into growing average weed.  A true aquaponic system is big bucks, why spend that to grow supbar weed?  
     
    I'm in no way arguing with you, rather discussing a topic I've read a bit about myself.
     
     
     
  20. #20 ludachris420, Apr 18, 2015
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    I've seen cannabis grow in aquaponics. you said it would not and that is incorrect.i agree why spend that money to grow subpar cannabis but it can be done. I would not expect someone to argue weather cannabis can grow in most environments.but if you looked at his set up it is not all that of a set up.it is pretty basic. The plant could sustain life and possibly to a finished cycle. Quality and yield could be debated. Someone said it could not be done and used phosphorus levels not being high enough to induce flowering with the notion the water did not have high enough levels of phosphate. Seeing as how the plant WILL survive with little amounts of phosphorus and cannabis can uptake phosphorus through alternate ways other then the rooting system then how could it not be done?. Like I said,yes the plant would suffer but it can be done.and why would I think you were not talking to me when you quoted my post therefore your statement as good luck trying would be In reference to me yes?I'm not mad.berry said it could not be done and he was incorrect. My shrimp addition was a simple example that might not of been the best way to say there is species of fish that can thrive on high phosphate water levels but there is and plants can also uptake phosphorus via leaves and not just roots and in reality the plant will most likely survive period long as it is not over or under watered.
     

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