How long will humans survive into the future?

Discussion in 'Science and Nature' started by Messiah Decoy, Mar 27, 2015.

  1. Some species survive for millions of years.

    What are the chances humans could do the same?
     
  2. Hard to say, plus I don't feel like doing any research.  Egyptians were what?...3000bc.  Clearly they were developed but still fairly young.  I feel like we have the technology to survive the next ice age.  As a whole we seem top be our greatest burden.  We will survive WWIII but at what cost?
     
    Think of countries like Syria and think if the planet as a whole, the majority of us could be whipped out in a matter of decades or even years.
     
    Way to many variables to make an accurate estimate.  
     
  3. i think humans will live for a while but global population will probably drop a lot 
     
  4. As the trend is going, continuing on Earth alone we likely wont last that long. We really need to make serious efforts to populate space IMO
     
  5. We'll need artificial intelligence if we're going to perfect space colonies.

    But that might be a deal with the devil considering how unpredictible artificial intelligence could be.
     
  6. why would we need artificial intelligence?

    I think you are underestimating what we can manage

    -yuri
     
  7. An A.I. with a 10,000 IQ could figure out the easiest and quickest ways to set up very reliable space colonies.

    and way better than our smartest NASA scientist.
     
  8. You're obviously right, but I don't think we NEED that to figure it out on our own. 

    Having said that, I think we'll witness the birth of true A.I. before mankind gets to colonize other planets on our own, so the point might become moot.
     
  9. you realize that a "think tank" is basically a human multicpre supercomputer right?

    Also a calculator is not an AI.

    We don't need an ai

    Could an AI possible do it better? Maybe i can't speak to that. But we dont nneed it

    -yuri
     
  10. Have we perfected space travel or space colonies?

    If not, then advanced A.I. could accomplish that in a matter of minutes.
     
  11.  
    A.I. is still going to have to rely on resources.. just like us. Not sure how you think A.I. could accomplish that in mere minutes when it would be subject to the same restrictions as us in terms of what is available to it. Not only that, A.I. isn't just intelligence for making calculations.. it is feeling and living, meaning it will have emotions.. and just like with humans, will vary and oppose one another. It's not going to be a drastic jump like you think.. but an evolution.
     
  12. Why wouldn't the change be drastic?

    We're talking creative machines with IQs 50 times higher than Stephen Hawking.
     
  13. We have no idea what an advanced A.I. psychology would look like.

    And there's no way we could comprehend or predict the behavior of a mind so sophisticated beyond our own.
     
  14. why do you think AI would be more sophisticated?

    Why do you think it would be better?

    There is more to intelligence than calculations per minute.

    -yuri
     
  15.  
    Because their processing power will still be limited from the beginning and need to expand. Currently, if we wanted to recreate the human brain.. we would need an area the size of a city filled with supercomputers. There are so many neural connection in your brain that if you laid them all end to end, it would circle the globe almost 4 times.. there is so much going into life that when we are able to synthetically recreate it, it will be basic and gradually develop.
     
    Here we tried it with a lil over 80,000 supercomputers.. and could only manage to recreate the human brain for one second. http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/163051-simulating-1-second-of-human-brain-activity-takes-82944-processors
     
    Here we used almost 150,000 supercomputers.. http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/graphic-science-ibm-simulates-4-percent-human-brain-all-of-cat-brain/
     
    We are generations away from having artificial life even on par with humans.. but if you looking at just intelligence, we already got intelligent programs like Watson.. but even it needs a few thousand supercomputers to run it. If we tried to make a living robot with an IQ of 10,000.. it'd either be top heavy from having a skyscraper full of supercomputers sitting in it's head or be one huge ass robot bigger than anything we've built before.
     
  16. If you could recreate the functions of the human brain in computer form, you wouldn't have the same organic limitations. You would be able to upgrade it far beyond human capability.
     
  17. I never said the A.I. would be available anytime soon.

    I just suggested A.I. could help humans colonize space and survive beyond Earth.
     
  18. right but you forget, there is cost and materials associated with it.

    Notice how fast computers go bad?

    Biology has the advantage of being carbon based. Cheap efficient building mats.

    A thousand human geniuses in a think tank would be a dime aa dozen vs super quantum AI computers.

    -yuri
     
  19. Why not just upgrade ourselves?
     
  20.  
    We've been trying ...
     

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