Psychiatry is a scam.

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  1. #1 well highdrated, Mar 16, 2015
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    http://www.cchrint.org/2014/06/12/two-new-smoking-guns-show-psychiatry-is-a-complete-fraud/
     
     
    overall, i would have to agree with the notion that modern medical psychiatry is nothing more than a cult of fake doctors.
     
    it's fascinating that the practice of inventing a disease, then a medication for it, which in many cases ruins a person's life is legal and is not considered a crime against humanity. (although you will find books written by M.D.'s that would agree with these statements). 
    The fact that doctors question the legitimacy of this "science" and the overall practice of shoving heavy medications down people's throats without tests of any kind should make one question the legitimacy of the whole thing.
     
    psychiatrists create their own societies and issue awards, which gives them enough "credibility" to act like real doctors. they boast about achievements in psychiatry. how far we've come along.
    but that couldn't be further from the truth... 
    mental illness has reached epidemic proportions. this is fact that cannot be disputed. 
    so what exactly has the psychiatry, as a science, accomplished?
     
    DSM http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diagnostic_and_Statistical_Manual_of_Mental_Disorders
    is currently undergoing it's 15th revision. meaning psychiatrists are just adding a list of disorders and subsequently working with pharmaceutical companies to create and prescribe dangerous drugs to people based on nothing more than a quick list of symptoms.
     
    remember these are the same people that came up with lobotomy, chemical castration, ADHD in young kids, etc. etc.
     
    as it goes with any generalization, i'm sure there are individuals that are honestly trying to help people even among psychiatrists... these cases of good deeds pale in comparison to the multi-billion dollar problem and the tens of thousands of ruined lives by unrestricted mass medication. 
     
    TL;DR
    prescription-based psychiatry is a fake science. many of these so-called "doctors" are nothing more than glorified drug dealers and criminals. 

     
  2. you mean to say that you have never in your life seen some crazy fucker talking to him or her self on the street ? and in so seeing said crazy fucker on the street, what exactly would you call them?
     
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    not sure what your questions have to do with the OP.
     
    i've seen a crazy fucker talk to himself.. sure.
    i would call them a crazy fucker, i guess.. 
     
    but you know there are over 300 mental disorders and which one he happens to have nobody knows. since there are NO physical tests for ANY of them. 
     
  4. Weird, I have 2 mental illnesses that, if I wasn't medicated, I may harm others or myself with no memory of it. Hell I'd have a manic breakdown every few days. You sure the field just makes shit up? Seems to be helping me a ton.


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  5. like anything else in life there is good and there is bad
     
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    pretty sure.
     
    if you feel that getting tranquilized is best option for you, i cannot argue with that. fifty years ago the same people would probably perform the lobotomy and you'd be cured. 
    to be fair... if you've been given adequate tests and after all said and done it was determined that the medication is the only course of action for you, then that is not necessarily wrong. 
    it is however wrong to feed people heavy anti-psychotic drugs based on symptoms which could stem from lack of magnesium.
    it is also wrong to give drugs to kids under the pretense that they have ADHD or some other made-up shit and will be expelled from school if parent's do not force-feed the shit to them. that's criminal.
     
    your situation is probably different (or maybe not)... but really it doesn't take away from the fact that many of these so-called doctors do nothing (and i mean literally nothing) except "listen" to a patient for 5 - 10 minutes and write a script. 
    btw, do you have a plan for getting off the meds? what happens if you run out or find yourself in a situation where the meds are not available? 
     
  7. Well I kinda agree with what u are trying to say. The problem is that some psychiatrists just use drug to whatever problem they find on people. I mean you see nowadays many kids being diagnosed with ADHD and those kind get drug treatment, which in many cases wouldnt be necessary.
     
    Just like in any profession there are good and bad professionals. Bad psychiatrists make part of what you are saying true.
     
  8. I've always known that, I mean cmon seriously, why would you pay to be told things you already know.
     
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    i agree that not every psychiatrist is an evil "drug dealer".
    i am looking at the field of psychiatry as a whole... and so far i see little "good".
     
    also let's not confuse prescription (or medication-based) psychiatry, which is what i'm addressing here, with psychology or neurology or even behavioral therapy.
     
    what other "medical" field allows you to just come up with a disease without any physical test to show for it?
    sometimes you hear the term "chemical imbalance".. exactly which chemical and what test was done to an individual to show this imbalance? most likely the answer is none... unless a person is undergoing clinical observation, they will simply get a script based on some matching symptoms. 
     
  10. If my meds were to run out, I would be mildly fine for who knows how long. A day? A month? Maybe a year? And then one day, like has been in the past, I will react to something and possibly kill someone this time instead of almost doing it. ADHD and other commonly issued diagnosis are bs imo. But there are serious mental illnesses out there that DO need to be medicated.



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  11. Let's dissect this blog post.. First, lets start with the author, Jon Rappoport.
     
    This is his site: http://www.nomorefakenews.com/index.html
     
    This is his wiki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jon_Rappoport
     
    He is an alternative medicine conspiracy theorist.. and I can guarantee his main agenda is to down play modern medicine because it threatens his business interests. Which include trying to sell people his products which include collections of audio and text files for $125 each.. products that are threatened by modern medicine.
     
    From his blog..
    A conspiracy theorist.. and not even a good one at that. "Here is evidence.. just kidding, just going to go on a crazy rant.."
     
    The dude is whack, but now onto the blog post.. The two pieces of "smoking gun" evidence are:
     
    And that is accurate.. because the brain is still confusing as fuck. The only thing doctors really have to go off of is what the patient says.. and then compare it to the plethora of data gathered from other patients. If we could see the specific cause of depression and schizophrenia and all that, they would no longer be illnesses we need to worry about because we'd fix it right. We can't because we don't know and until the human brain is mapped in full, we won't know. Have you ever had your brain scanned with as much detail as possible while filling out a questionnaire on yourself? I haven't and barely anyone has.. but if every person had their brain scanned and logged along with a bunch of other information, we'd have something to go off of other than just word of mouth.
     
    These are real conditions, including ADHD. Completely over diagnosed, I'll give you that.. but it is real. That doesn't even mean that it is a problem for everyone who has it.. there are many experiences in life where you'd probably be glad you had it if you do. As for the over diagnosing.. the blame falls more on the parents and not the medical community. Every child will have some sort of ADD/ADHD growing up.. it's the role of the parents to teach them to focus themselves. It is increasingly difficult because there are many distractions in the modern world and a general break down of parenting. Rather than owning up to their responsibility as a parent, a role model.. they rather just give their kid some drugs and go about their day. You could say that doctors enable the parents.. but it is still the parents.
     
    To sum it up, mental conditions such as ADHD and the like are real conditions, states of mind.. totally over diagnosed out of convenience in a time where we want everything to be easy. Mr. John Rappiefrujbef is denying their existence and creating a conspiracy theory to protect his personal interests. Basically propaganda in favor of himself.. and my stance on propaganda is that it is all bad. Even if it is for a good cause, it is bad.
     
  12. Too bad their is more value in money than human lives.

    On the bright side, Dr Mark Gordon is treating people with PTSD and TBI with specific hormone replacements to make up for deficiences.


    " These deficiencies, says Gordon, can cause a host
    of psychological, physiological, and physical manifestations, including depression, outbursts of anger, anxiety, mood swings, memory loss, inability to
    concentrate, learning disabilities, sleep deprivation, increased risk for heart attacks, strokes, high blood pressure, diabetes, loss of libido, menstrual irregularities, premature menopause, obesity, loss of lean body mass, muscular weakness, and a number of other medically documented conditions."

    I bet most of us have sustained some degree of brain injury. I personally take vitamin d (hormone) and omega 3 to help offset any damage i may have done to my brain throughout my life.
     
  13. #13 NorseMythology, Mar 17, 2015
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  14. The mental health industry is the same as the health industry.

    They sell treatments not cures.

    -yuri
     
  15. #15 well highdrated, Mar 17, 2015
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    i am not disagreeing that some illnesses need to be medicated. the problem is how some of these "doctors" figure out which medications are appropriate, the dosages and overall approach to "helping" someone.
     
    considering that there are medical studies proving that in many cases exercise can be just as effective if not more effective than medication: http://www.health.harvard.edu/mind-and-mood/exercise-and-depression-report-excerpt
    how many people were given medication by their psychiatrists instead of a simple requirement to got for 35 minute walk every day?
     
    if a person is so stressed out from work that their health is suffering .. do you know what the prescription should be? ... time off from work.
    not a drug to get them through the day until one monday shit really hits the fan and the person goes mental and shoots his or her co-workers. 
     
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    not really interested in Jon Rappaport, a quick google search will reveal just a few others sharing that opinion.
     
    if talking about ADHD specifically.
     
    1. there is absolutely no proof that ADHD is a real condition, and if you do decide to research it a little you'll notice a number of books and doctors (including neurologists) from USA and Europe, saying that it is nothing more than a fabricated disease. 
     
    2. we are not meant to be sitting and listening to someone talk shit for hours on end.. discipline is important but medication is not a solution. if the kid has to much energy how about involving him in some sports or activities that do not require the kid to be still for hours?
     
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    not really ... by saying "chemical imbalance" it is usually implied that you are low on serotonin for example .. (or dopamine).. etc.
     
    are there tests to determine serotonin imbalance? yes.
     
    however... 1. they are very costly. 2. a single test will show nothing. you need to constantly monitor the levels and ensure that over the observed period they are critically low. 3. when a patient comes to a psychiatrist saying they are depressed, no tests will be performed. only a quick check of symptoms. 
     
    now regarding hormones you do bring an interesting point. 
    mild depression and anxiety could be treated with OTC hormonal supplements such as  pregnenolone and DHEA.
    the problem is these meds cost $10 in any grocery store. ... no profits for big pharma. 
     
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    exactly. anything from hormonal deficiency to adrenal fatigue to a simple lack of vitamin d or zinc or magnesium can cause a number of problems.
    heavy medication should be the last resort step when treating someone... only when all other options have been exhausted. 
     
  19. #19 Uncle_Meat420, Mar 17, 2015
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    There are physical/chemical indicators for all of the disorders you listed.
     
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    i didn't list any disorders.
     
    what is a chemical indicator for general anxiety?
     

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