How do you know the difference between light and dark forces?

Discussion in 'Religion, Beliefs and Spirituality' started by Messiah Decoy, Mar 12, 2015.

  1. How do you know a path leads to enlightenment rather than ignorance?
     
  2. there is no good and evil, only order and chaos.
     
  3. #3 Messiah Decoy, Mar 12, 2015
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    I like both.

    Good versus evil gives me something to fight for.

    Fighting in the mental sense, of course.
     
  4. #4 CoughTHC, Mar 12, 2015
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    Enlightenment isn't questionable, to stumble down the dark path you will find yourself confused, ignorant and lost, questioning how you stumbled across this negative feel. Enlightenment is all about positivity and knowing self
     
  5. There isn't a preset path of any kind. You do what you think is right, live by your morals, live your life the way you want to live it, do thinks you enjoy.


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  6. There is no light/dark good/evil order/chaos. If you see those you are filtering out half of the whole. You are not enlightened until you learn to let yourself be.
     
  7. If you know it, you're probably on the wrong path.
     
  8. #8 PiffDreamz, Mar 15, 2015
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    There is no such thing as good and evil when dealing with matters of the heart. If pursuit of happiness is our birth right, then it is only fair that we pursue at any and all expenses without the ideal of good and bad forces.
     
  9. Can you define "enlightenment" and "ignorance".
     
    everything's relative anyway tho
     
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    I'm referring to a form of spiritual enlightenment that allows a person to make the best choices (I'm not sure what those are).
     
    Ignorance is pretty much following a path that leads to self-destruction and spiritual blindness.
     
  11. There are many different philosophies that describe what making the right choice is.
    Egoism States that whatever choice benefits you the most is the right on.
    Altruism states that whatever choice benefits the most other people is the right one.

    So you see, everything is relative to everything.
     
  12. I'd imagine that the altruist would end up in a better place than the selfish egoist.

    We can create our own personal hell if we're not too careful.
     
  13. If the egoist is making every decision that benefits himself the most wouldn't it seem logical that he wouldn't end up in a better place than the altruist?
     
  14. Life has a funny way of giving selfish people the opposite of what they want.
     
  15. I think it's wrong to assume that the egoist is a selfish jerk.
    But I think we can both agree that the key is to balance in between.
     
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    Not really. There's nothing to back up all that spiritual stuff. Or karma for that matter. All those cannibal killers from the second Liberian war walk free. Even backed up by neighborhoods of gangs. Saddam Hussein caused the death of over a million people. But his pain lasted a few minutes. Hitler took his own life, so in a sense he won.
     
    Punishing the assailant won't help the victim. Maybe life/karma/universe should prevent people from committing crimes rather than punish them afterwards.
     
    Sometimes we feel like bad things happen to bad people. But those are the ones who got caught... by us, the other people. How about all those who went unpunished? We don't even know about them.
     
    Things just happen. If believing there's structure or a pattern to things and that makes you feel better then all the more power to you. But will any of these beliefs benefit you in real life?
     
    Just treat people right. Think twice before making a decision. Don't take big risk. Do things you know will benefit you in the long run.
     
    There's no life altering advise anyone can give you, if there was humanity would've discovered it already and the entire human race would walk around repeating it like a mantra all day. Enjoy yourself instead of looking for answers.
     
  17. It's my belief that everyone is stuck in their own heaven or hell.

    And everything you see, touch, taste and hear is God.

    In other words, it seems like a serial killer got away based on what God shows you but in that serial killer's private universe he suffers immensely.

    All you can measure is your own pain and suffering. The world around you is what God wants you to see, nothing more.
     
  18. #18 Kastema, Mar 15, 2015
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    Yeah, I agree with you, but I'm not sure that person meant it like this. I don't know about karma, I like to think there's some measure of truth in it. But here's what I've found from my own experience:
     
    It's not that life gives "bad" people the opposite of what they want. It's that they give themselves the opposite of what they need, it's part of their problem. Or should I say "we", cause I'm at times the very definition of a "negative energy person". People like that hate and reject themselves. They run around in circles of confusion and self sabotage and crippling negativity. They hurt themselves as much as they hurt others, many of them are physically self destructive in some degree. Don't worry about Liberian warlords and Hitler - what they did goes against human nature, it goes against nature itself. Though you may think they have gone unpunished, I believe that sort of thing has mental and emotional consequences. Damages your "soul", so to speak. 

    So, how do you know if you're on the right path towards enlightenment? I think you become transparent to yourself. You're no longer confused, you understand every motivation you've ever had for everything. You see exactly why you are who you are and you do any necessary adjustments to your personality and outlook with relative ease. You do what's best for you, you're productive, naturally happy, connected with yourself, living in the present (I hate this expression, but it's true). Other people start becoming transparent too, and you're able to empathize. Basically, I think being 'enlightened' just means being a whole, healthy, happy human being. 
     
  19. Whoa. Never thought of that. I like it. Except it suggest people are unable to perceive reality objectively, and I don't know if I agree with that. Food for thought. 
     
  20. Someone told me if you have deja vu often it means youre on the right path
     

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