Trying to pick my first higher-end piece.. Mobius vs Sovereignty

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  1. #1 epic0018, Mar 5, 2015
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    Hey everyone, I'm looking to make my first higher-end glass purchase. I'm using it entirely for flowers (no access to concentrates). I've heard good things about Mobius and Sovereignty, so I've been looking at both of them. 
    \nDoes anyone have any recommendations? So far, I was looking at the Mobius 50T Stereo Matrix, the Mobius 50A Stereo Matrix, the Mobius Binary Matrix, the Sovereignty Inv 4 arm, and the Sovereignty Capcycler.
    \nAs far the stereo matrix goes.. has anyone noticed a big difference between the 50T and the 50A? Would you recommend going for something bigger (60T or 65T)?
    \nI want to keep it under $750, and I'm open to other suggestions if I've overlooked anything.
    \nThanks in advance!

     
  2. Bump. I'm also interested.
     
  3. Sov stem 8
     
  4.  
    I've been looking everywhere for one, but no luck.
     
  5. SG capcycler, treecycler, stem8 or g8, I have a 4arm pillar I'm selling for around that range. Its up on both of the sovereignty groups on fb. But any SG flower tube will be sick. I own a stem8 and 2 pillars. Sickest tubes I've hit
     
  6. Sent you a message. 
     
    I've heard that cyclers aren't intended for flowers. Am I wrong about that? 
     
  7. The capcycler and treecycler are flower tubes bro.
     
  8. Thanks man. I'm new to the intricacies of glass. Is the price difference between the SG Capcycler/Pillar etc. and the Stereo Matrix 60T ($330 locally) worth it?
     
  9. get a goldstein 
     
  10. I've only ever hit. Sg pillar, but my best buddy does have a lt stereo matrix 65t and man can I say its one of my favorite tubes ever.

    Sent from a Pineapple under the Sea.
     
  11. It seems that the Pillar is without a doubt better than any Mobius piece, but is it worth paying another 500?
     
  12. how's the pillar?
     
  13. If you are willing to spend 1500 on a piece it is the best money can buy really (imo), I've hit on once and very little drag with the smoothest hits
     
  14. I hope you aren't buying a clear pillar for 1,500$. A clear one shouldn't retail for more than 1150$ and Aqualabs usually have them in stock. The Mobius is going to be the cheaper option, I personally didn't like my natty neck peyote pillar. The stereo is great though but I haven't heard much about his newer stuff. You really can't go wrong with any of your options though, with your options it comes down to preferance.
     
  15. I'm in an ignorant fellow here.
     
  16. im too biased on this. i would say none of the pieces you listed would be worth it.
     
  17. #18 Purplehaze4554, Mar 24, 2015
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    I have two mobius pieces. I have never hit a sov. But honestly I can't imagine the price difference is worth it. I really don't think you can go wrong with a matrix perc in any of the forms you said. I have the binary perc as well but would say save the cash and buy the matrix for your first high end piece. It's the flagship perc of the mobius line.
     
  18. I currently own a Mobius 60b and a Sovereignty econoline vapor rig. I used to own a previous Mobius piece, but she's gone to another place. I prefer sovereignty I like their style. Mobius has this space/galactic type style to all their pieces which I don't care for. The function on both are superb though. So if you're trying to save a few bucks I would recommend a Mobius 60t. If not, I recommend the king stem line, or a mini peyote pillar. 
     
  19. Nano matrix fuck what you have heard
     

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