Lung Cancer and RSO Question

Sorry to hear of your family members cancer fight. Lung cancer is a bitch. Cannabis would probably make him/her feel better. But sorry to say, in my experience with it, RSO is ineffective with stage iv lung cancer. Everyone who I've known with stage iv lung cancer has died even using RSO. I'm not saying don't try it. I have heard of RSO shrinking lung cancer tumors (anecdotal), but by stage iv a persons body can be riddled with them. By stage iv, my father, in addition to tumors in both lungs, also had tumors in his spine, liver, brain etc. I'm not trying to bad mouth RSO I believe it does work in certain situations, I am just saying curing stage iv lung cancer with it is hoping for a little too much from it. Either way, I do feel that cannabis will increase your loved ones quality of life. I'll try and answer your questions.
 
In most strains, cbd levels above 5% are usually considered high. but there are many strains that have 8%+ which are the ones you are looking for if you want high cbd. Sour tsunami is up in the 11% range. Generally, the more CBD in a strain, the less THC there will be. You can find strain info here http://www.leafly.com/. There is much information out there with conflicting conclusions. Some says high CBD is what you need, some say high THC. Here is an article you may find interesting   As for strains, If you're looking for something with high THC content this list has strains with very high THC here
As for high CBD strains, Harlequin, Charlottes web, Cannatonic, and the one I mentioned earlier. My only tips for RSO is 1) try it, regardless of my experiences (anecdotal) with it, it is worth it to give it a go and it very well may shrink the tumors. 2) follow his (simpson) directions and 3) get it done sooner rather than later. Sorry I couldn't be of more help and I hope you have better luck with it than I did buddy. 

 

According to my personal amaetur research, the best RSO is very high in THC, but has significant levels of other cannabinoids. In other words, it is best to have a "good mix", usually of strong indica varieties. I would mix a lot of high quality THC strains and throw in some well known CBD and CBN containing strains in the mix, maybe some unusual strains (Harlequin, Cannatonic, Durban Poison for THCV content).
 
If you want to be serious about this, I might suggest going beyond the "1 gram a day" dose if possible. Stage IV cancer is extremely serious and will require a lot of (very high quality) oil. I also suggest him to do a lot of low temperature dabs of high quality dewaxed shatter, mixed with some bubble hashes.
 
I've also other users claim they partially decarboxylate a small portion of their oil or add some non-decarboxylated oil to their decarb'd so they get the benefits of terpenes and non-heated cannabinoids, which makes sense to me also. However, you always need decarb'ed oil as the main form of treatment. As a measure, you want to get your oil as close as you can to around 300 degrees F. When it stops bubbling, it is done decarb'ing.
 
I do this on a much lighter scale to control my autoimmune problem. I highly suggest you to do as high of a dose as possible and do not be conservative in dosing at all.

 

 
He's right. At minimum, the oil will not hurt and will greatly ease the pain.

 

I am also new to these forums.  My husband also has stage IV lung cancer and is trying the cannabis oils as treatment for the cancer. 
 
We've been inspired to try cannabis oils because of testimonies of others (i.e. Sharon Kelly) who claim the cannabis oil cured their stage IV lung cancer.  You can find her testimony on you tube. It is my understanding that you need a high THC cannabis oil (70% or higher) for cancer.  The proscribed method I've seen is to take at least "60 grams" or more in a 90 day period.  Of course this will vary according to the individual physiology of the person and how ill they are.     
 
My husband has not been able to tolerate a very high dosage of the oil, so we're trying the "back door" method (i.e. rectal administration), which is the same method "Sharon Kelly" used... to avoid the phychotrophic effects.  
 
I am here seeking more information regarding this method... not sure where to post the topic or if I should start up a new subject ("Back Door Method").  I also don't want to gross anyone out with the subject. 
 
I'd appreciate if an administrator of these forums could direct me to any forums where  this subject is being discussed.  Or should I start up a new topic?       

 

 
Hi. Welcome to GC! You could start a new topic by going to the "Medical marijuana usage and applications" forums and click the "Start new topic" tab near the top of the page.
 
Your question is semi-relevant here though. In my opinion, getting high is often the sign that the medicine is working the best. It takes a while to adjust to tolerance for some people, but be patient if you can and wait until your body gets comfortable, and increase the dosage.
 
You could create a type of coconut oil suppository by mixing the oil and infusing it into coconut oil and putting it in caps you buy from the health store. You could put purely raw hash oil in there too though. However, this method is more advised for people with illnesses like prostate cancer, colon cancer, etc.
 
In my opinion, if I had lung cancer, I would try orally ingesting as much RSO as I could. High THC is wonderful. Adding oils with significant levels of other cannabinoids, such as CBD, CBN, and CBG may assist you as well. I'd also consider infusing some raw terpenes into my oil as well (basically just throwing in a little bit of the strongest tasting non-decarboxylated oil into the mix). I would also personally advise your husband to consider dabbing full melt hashes and dewaxed oils at low temperatures. This would hopefully make a "double whammy" effect against his lung cancer.

 

everything dabs710 wrote above plus use a vaporizer with dried cannabis flowers for the lungs.  you should get a close representation of the molecular profiles of all the terpenes and volatile compounds that are lost when over working the flowers into oils and such. also for suppositories you can freeze the capsules for a deeper insertion so the capsules have a delayed break down period.
 
a tip for vaporizing---  when you are ready for a vaporizer session breath in deeply the vapor and then release a little bit of the held breath until you visibly see the vapor start to leave your mouth. at that point rebreath back in some fresh air to re activate the oxygen absorption capillaries in your lung lining and airways. I do this (rebreath)about three times per pull of vapor. the cannabis molecule has about a 5 second half life in your lung absorption capability so you only absorb a certain amount of compounds before your lungs need new fresh air to reactivate the lining for more oxygen and active molecular compound absorption. when you blow out huge clouds of vapor with one pull on the vape all those compounds leave in the vapor and into the air around you. some people call it ghosting a hit and actually do it with smoking but yuck to that!! stick to vapor.

 

To dabs710 and Galaxy420
 
Thank you for your comments.  So far my husband has been using the oils sublingually and up the back door.  Because he has lung cancer he's afraid to vaporize.  Any thoughts on that?     
 
We were originally administering through the back door with frozen suppositories mixing cannabis oil with the coconut oil.  Initially he was discharging much of what we were putting in.  I believe this may have been due to there being too much coconut oil in the suppositories. 
 
We now mix the cannabis oil 1/2 and 1/2 with melted coconut oil and we use a 1ml syringe to administer up the back door.  This seems to work much better and there's been very little discharge.  We've also upped the daily dosage from 1 g per day to 1.3.  Needless to say, this has been a big strain on us financially. 
 
Thanks again.               

 

well, the vapor going to the lungs would benefit the condition best IMO because it targets that part of the body directly. if you research vaporizing the vapor does not contain carcinogens like smoke does. with smoking you get the cannabis compounds into your lungs but also the tar and nasties with it, not so with vaporizing. you can also use a bubbler, bong, water pipe with vaporizing to help cool the vapor and allow for higher heat vaping which introduces the higher heat compounds from the plant. 
 
here is a chart showing the cannabinoids and their percentages withing the molecule
http://forum.grasscity.com/medical-marijuana-usage-applications/373071-properties-cannabinoids-pic.html
 
there are other charts showing how the heat from a vaporizer releases certain compounds according to the temperature setting.