"The law is not subject to the whims of stubborn rulers and justice is not arbitrary." --Barack Obama, Oct 2007 [condemning Bush for NSA spying on Americans] Hmmmm.... nice words there chief! Given the last 6 years, it's a little hard to believe he actually said that. It's too bad his words were just the usual campaign bullshit. After taking office, Obama proceeded to expand the NSA's role in spying on Americans - all Americans! [media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBSV9BQXw6I[/media] According to William Binney who, as an almost legendary NSA crypto-mathematician, was instrumental in automating the NSA's citizen surveillance operation. After 9/11, in cooperation with AT&T and others, the NSA's goal was to be able to analyze 20 terabytes of telecom/internet data per minute. According to Binney, they were able to create-append around 320 million records per day - on all of us! That was over a decade ago. [see Citizenfour interview link for reference to these statistics] If you have access to Xfinity, check out Citizenfour. Even this post is being sifted for anything that could be construed (and misconstrued) as a threat since just typing the three letters "NSA" may warrant a kick from being "gathered" to being "analyzed" to being "stored". It's assuredly part of my composite set of records. So let's have the US federal government involved in more of our lives. Wonderful strategy. And a truly comforting political ideology there Mr Obama!
Basically, anyone affiliated with the government....should not have any part in what is to be the "new age" or the new ideological societal structure.
How do you not mind a corrupt over reaching government spying on your every private communication? That is just mind boggling to me.
Nope lol these people act like there some kind of big deal the NSA gives a damn about lol there can be allegations of spying and all but the man power needed to read/listen to each and every phone call/text/IM is just not possible there not spying on you folks there spying on people that matter/ have some sort of tie to illegal things dont build bombs or do other severely illegal shit and u will be alright... a buddy i went to school with is in law enforcement and if the government would just show people the things they are able to prevent with the information they collect and these morons would realize they are not going to waste resources to find out about your little weed purchase over stopping a mass murder people would realize this is a good thing
Because there are a lot of blades who feel the same way, or because of the "I dont care" part? Pretty much my thoughts. I can understand how they're technically violating our rights, but it doesn't seem to have done any measurable harm to me from what I can tell. Unless you're planning an attack or you're a conspiracy nut, it shouldn't seem like a huge issue that they're collecting data that is mostly useless. Its much harder to organize a serious attack if you cant safely communicate. See my response to the ManOfTheYear
You are being extremely naive. Its like giving nukes to Iran and ssaying, "oh they robly wont nuke me" Have you ever read a history book? When as any government ever in the history of the world, obtained massive ammounts of power and not abused it? Edward snowden released documents proving nsa spying is used more for law enforcement (drugs) than for terrorism. What happens when massive roundups of potheads happen? Do you really tthink something like this is unlikely? -yuri
LOL On a related note, my wife put a posted note on the web can of her new computer so the government wouldn't spy on her. Thisnorning she said its not good enough because it wont block infared. I'm like :lol::lol: Ain't nobody got enough money to secretly install infared spying technology into every single laptop in the country... And you all think IM the paranoid one -yuri
I've read from many history books. Not much info on how ancient gov'ts spied on phone calls and such How are they abusing it now? I'll admit I haven't paid too much attention to the issue. I just dont get how them knowing my porn preferences, shopping habits (assuming I don't buy bomb materials and other dumb shit), ect is going to bite me in the ass. I feel like a major roundup of potheads is very unlikely..
Are you blades pulling my leg Have you not heard - http://www.pcworld.com/article/2889472/samsung-faces-complaint-in-us-ftc-over-smart-tv-surveillance.html I can turn off the spy function, but still ...
You got me there... How do you think the FBI catches so many drug dealers? By tapping phones... I realize this, this was just an easy eexample we can all relate to. Fact is though, twice in recent American history the government has done mass arrests. Once for commies and once for japs. What makes you think "government haters" aren't next? Or Muslims. Would you support mass arrests of islamists? -yuri
Some of these technologies already exist. For instance there is a famous case in ny I think where a mafia man was being spied on and listen to through on star in his car. There were no warrants and the courts ruled that the illegal info could be used in court. Your cell phone is used for tracking ALL the time. Police can and do track people through there phones and unless you can take your battery completely out, turning it off does not work. I have direct knowledge of this, ive witnessed it personally on 3 separate occasions. As we speak police stations are putting up their own cell towers so they don't need to seek info from carriers. If you live in a large city I can almost guarantee you have one in your city. They can monitor all calls and data without a warrant, and the courts back it.
right. But these things aare taking advantage of the technolgoy that already exists. Such as radio waves already being in the air. There isn't an infared detector in your phone camera tho. -yuri