How to bind/make THC honey with BHO?

Nice read from your early days PSam.  Nice to see someone figure it out and not be derailed by naysayers.

 

 
It's darker than regular glycerin but I don't see the dark suspension. That stuff on the top looks like your BHO didn't infuse unless you had a lot of waxes in the oil. Did anything stick to the sides of the crockpot? What was your ratio for this one and how much EC did you use? 
 
For now, just cap everything and shake it everyday to break up that clot and get everything distributed. You will always get a ring around the top of the glycerin. After you shake and cure it, if there is any of the wax left it will cling to the sides when you pour it out and it will leave a pretty clean product. 
 
In the meantime, start sampling. Start with a ml.   

 

Hey PSam - I thought I'd ask this since this thread has taken a turn from honey to glycerin and I've seen alot of info in a couple of the threads referenced ---
 
As far as bioavailibility goes, do you notice much difference when you transfer to the different mediums? GD vs honey vs glycerin vs coconut oil?  Just curious since I'm thinking of making a small batch of agave and the question arises - would it be better to use a mixture of agave/oil or agave/glycerin to increase the absorption?  Don't recall any discussion on the 'carrier' choice influencing the overall effects, so I thought I'd ask....

 

Yeah - thats why I had the question since BKS also said that sugars (honey) isn't very available either.  You can see why the glycerin would suck for actually extracting the oils, but for carrying them...???  Thats why PSam would be able to shed light, since he's transferred his GD into all by this point and has a keen sense to notice if there is a significant difference.
 
BTW RaJay - 2 oz of EC for 14g BHO seems kinda (very) light --- I'm guessing it never fully dissolved in the EC since you still have a big glob?  4-6 oz would've been better.

 

Yeah - make sure the bho is fully dissolved before adding  - use as much EC as needed - figure almost as much as you use when you winterize.  And stir well when you're evapping the EC - once it separates, its harder to get it back into solution - especially with the bigger batches you're running.

 

 
Sorry, all, I took a nap because it was so slow and imagine my surprise when I saw all the notifications. I'll try to catch up here. 
 
Should have been more like 8 ounces of EC. That much BHO in just a couple of ounces of EC is going to be too heavy for the glycerin. I know I said a little amount but with 42 ounces of glycerin I was thinking a little more than that. 

 

 
It sounds like you had half of it blend but not rest because you ran out of alcohol in your transfer before the oil was fully infused. This is the same thing that you see with 151 and less when you go over the alcohol threshold. I know this sounds weird but your alcohol is what drives the infusion. If the alcohol the oil is bonded with evaporates too quickly, it will leave the oil sitting on top of the medium. 
 
Take some of that you gathered and mix a little with more alcohol to ensure it is cannabinoids and not tar. It should dissolve readily with EC if good. The waxes and oils will still stick. 
 
You may have also hit your saturation point but I don't think that's the issue. 

 

 
You did read that. Glycerin is a lousy solvent and is why you need more alcohol for your transfer. It is a really slow solvent for infusion and is why your alcohol evaporates before the oil is infused and it's one of the things most people haven't a concept of. Everybody starts off with alcohol or butter or coconut oil or some other quicker absorbed medium and infusion is so easy with those that they think glycerin will be the same. At least now you're getting to see the background of the stuff and you'll have a better knowledge of it. 

 

 
There is a great difference in bioavailability of the mediums and agave nectar is maybe the best. Agave nectar is recommended to take with a dose of RSO to increase it's availability. It gets into the system faster than GD if used sublingually or ingested. I love the agave "elixir" and recommend it to anyone. 
 
Why do you want to mix it with something else? But you'll need to be careful when you do a transfer or it will turn out like RaJay's glycerin. It takes some heat and some time and stirring but is worth it. Just when you think it's going to clump and die, all the oil will infuse almost all at the same time. 
 
Sugar is superb for bioavailability and takes affect very quickly. I like sugar or agave in my edibles for the quick onset and I'll use a lipid like evco or butter so that by the time the carbohydrates are beginning to let off a little, the lipid will pick up the pace as it starts to metabolize in the liver. 
 
Honey is also good and for the same reasons listed above. Honey, unfortunately, will lose some of it's moisture during the transfer and is then difficult to use with a dropper for a sublingual dose unless it's warmed first. 
 
The oils and lipids are the most widely accepted but take the longest while providing a better pathway for the delta-9 reaching the liver before it's broken down into other metabolites. In my opinion, the lipids offer the most healing power because of that. 

 

 
This is one area where BKS is wrong. Sugars are more bioavailable than most anything. All that stuff she wrote about honey was wrong. Sugars are great for cannabis infusion and can be used when cooking for great edibles. Try infusing some sugar and then tell me what you think. It's real easy and I have the guide in several spots. You'll feel the sugar within minutes. It's great for wake and bake in your coffee or a nightcap in your tea. 
 
Sugar infusion is a bonanza for people who like edibles and can use sugar. For those that can't, alternative sugars can be infused. Like coconut and birch sugars, splenda and others. 
 
\tDragon Cannabis Sugar - An Edible Bonanza

 

 
I probably told you that and it was my mistake for not taking into consideration the amount of honey you were using and because of my lack of hands on knowledge of BHO. I just didn't make the connection until the glycerin. Sorry. 

 

 
Can't argue with that.