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Clostridium Difficile and MMJ, specifically high CBD?

Discussion in 'Medical Marijuana Usage and Applications' started by orejanai, Feb 24, 2015.

  1. After being prescribed a ton of antibiotics for a while, I ended up with an episode of Clostridium Difficile that went away once and came back. 

    I think I ran across an article a while back that mentioned that high CBD can help out with controlling C. Diff, but I can't find it again. 

     
    Also, I found a pamphlet that mentioned that medical marijuana could replace Metronidazole (Flagyl) in some case? Is there any truth in that? I only ask because Flagyl is what they prescribe to get rid of C. Diff.
     
    Thank you ahead of time for any answers you might have!
     

     
  2. C diff is highly contagious. Bleach must be used on all surfaces your body touches like toilet and tub. Flagyl is used yes. Your good bacteria got wiped out with the bad. Ask about probiotics, etc, and if u can eat natural plain organic yogurt with live cultures
     
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  3. #3 dabs710, Feb 25, 2015
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    Find a probiotic with a good source of "S. Boulardii" bacteria. Taking an antibiotic with the probiotic to wipe out the C. diff would help lots. Continue taking the probiotic after you finish the course of your antibiotics to restore your gut flora. Eat yogurt with active cultures too. Try sourkraut also.
     
  4. Yeah, no, you can't substitute mmj for the flagyl.  Please, take the flagyl.
     
  5. THC does kill bacteria on contact.  In fact, there have been ideas for a breakthrough treatment for people suffering from tetanus involving cannabis for this very reason.

     Why not use both together and utilize the antibiotic properties of both? :)


     
     
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  6. A person has between 200-1000 of bacteria in the gut at any given time. Taking a probiotic is a good idea but there are only a few species of bacteria in a probiotic. You can build the greatest hippo enclosure in your backyard but you aren't going to walk out one day and find a hippo living there. You have to stock it.
    You get an influx of new gut flora by ingesting them. The best sources are fresh vegetables that have not been sanitized and lacto-fermented vegetables. Milk kefir(homemade) produces a welcoming environment for the bacteria you will ingest.
    Hope this helps.
     
  7. No, unwashed vegetables are a BAD source for GOOD bacteria.  They are, however, a GOOD source for BAD bacteria.  Stick to kefir, yogurt, probiotics, fermented veggies like Bubbie's sauerkraut.
     
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  8. a conundrum for organic produce-- you will get intestinal parasites from eating organic veggies because the parasites live on the skin of the veggie and are there because they were not sprayed to kill them off. once ingested they take residence in the gut and later feed from what you are supposed to be feeding on too. one reason people eat and eat not feeling like they get anything from the food just gas- parasite farts actually. how to resolve- spray/spritz organic veggie skins with everclear ( grain alcohol) before eating. this will kill off a few of them. black walnut hull tincture will kill parasites in the gut effectively.
     
  9. That is the fine line we have to walk. Kill off all the bacteria, we don't replenish the vital gut flora. They are essential for our health.
    Parasites? Which ones in particular? They are a necessary risk. Also one which is grossly overhyped.
     
  10. #10 Galaxy420, Mar 1, 2015
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    it is the conundrum for sure. there is a delicate balance of good and bad bacteria at all times.  the good bacteria is eating the bad stuff in you that can lead to overburdened parasite feces and the bad parasites are eating the vits and nutes you need from your food before you can assimilate and absorb the vits and nutes and then they are shitting out the waste for you to then handle in places you do not want to be handling parasite shit.  that is the big difference and I am not sure if they are all the same parasite or different ones but it is more of a quantity thing in terms of balance and not having to many for the space ( your gut). the average american has 2 pounds of parasites in them, heavier people more. eating really nutritious foods lead to healthier parasites living and evolving where dead bleached out fda approved nuclear irradiated foods lead to bad parasites because those foods lower your immunity system to not be able deal with them.
     
     
    edit... it is about placement of the parasites and the front runners sitting first up the intestinal tract would absorb the most nutrients to then send their defecation down the line into the areas you need to be absorbing ( sponge) the nutes.
     
  11. So to walk into the garden and pluck a ripe tomato and eat it is a bad idea? How did humanity manage to survive before the hand sanitizer saved us?
     
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    No.  Your hyperbole is NOT what I meant, and I'm fairly sure you know that.
     
    A: the conditions in a home garden are different from the conditions in huge agribusiness farms.  Your home garden is mostly safe because your body is used to small exposures to those pathogens all the time.  And the only people-sourced germs on that tomato are yours and maybe your family's, not random farm workers, warehouse workers, grocery workers, the 12 shoppers before you who touched that tomato after not washing their hands when they went to the bathroom or blew their noses.  Seriously, the number of people who have touched that tomato in the grocery store or even farmers' market is larger by a couple orders of magnitude than the number of people who have touched the tomato in your garden.
     
    B: You get that sanitation has actually significantly increased life expectancy and quality of life over the last 200-ish years, right?  So your question about how humanity survived is silly, because the answer, on an individual level, is that frequently, people DIDN'T.
     

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