Flintlock from 1700s could land elderly NJ man in prison

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  1. http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/02/18/flintlock-from-1700s-could-land-elderly-nj-man-in-prison/
     
     
    “This is a Queen Anne flintlock, which is a very pretty gun," Nappen said. "The barrel looks like a cannon and it has a single shot – you have to actually untwist the barrel to load it – it's pretty involved to even attempt to load it. But the craftsmanship is from the 1760s, and it's just magnificent to think that every piece of it was handmade.”
    But New Jersey law does not exempt antique firearms, said Nappen, who recently defended a Pennsylvania single mother who was pulled over just across the New Jersey border with a registered gun she carried for protection. In that case, Nappen helped his client avoid a 3-year mandatory minimum sentence only after widespread publicity including extensive coverage by Fox News led the state Attorney General's Office to drop the case.
    The Cumberland County Prosecutor's Office, which charged Van Gilder, did not return a call for comment Wednesday.
    If Van Gilder is ultimately convicted, Nappen said he hopes Gov. Chris Christie would consider a pardon.
    But he said the case could drag on for a long time.
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    A Queen Anne flintlock is a prized collector's item, but not the weapon of choice for modern criminals, according to firearms experts.


    \n“I called the prosecutor to see what we could do on this, and the prosecutor told me that they were waiting for ballistics," Nappen said incredulously. "And I'm thinking, ‘What? Ballistics on a flintlock?'"
    Second Amendment advocates say the case illustrates the need to make gun laws more reasonable.
    "This proves just how Draconian gun laws are in New Jersey," Alan Gottlieb, of the Second Amendment Foundation, told FoxNews.com. "Laws that are used to prosecute gun owners like this one are why the gun rights movement cannot trust gun prohibition politicians."
    Gun control advocacy groups, including the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence, Mayors Against Illegal Guns and the Violence Policy Center, did not return requests for comment.
    In an interview with NRA News, Van Gilder gave more details about his arrest.
    “One of the undersheriffs said, ‘Well, let him go, it's 250 years old,'" Van Gilder said. "But his boss, who is the sheriff, said, ‘No, we have to arrest him.' Next morning, I am sleeping and hear pounding on the door, and four of them came and took me away with three or four sheriff's cars -- I guess they didn't have anything better to do with taxpayer money.”
    “I was fingerprinted and I was chained by my legs to an ice cold bench. Apparently there must be a lot of drive-by flintlock shootings in North Jersey,” he quipped bitterly.
    Van Gilder, who is frightened for his future, has set up a legal defense fund. He knows he could be in for a long fight.
    “I'm charged with a felony," he said. "That could ruin my life. That could hurt my pension that I spent 34 years acquiring. And I couldn't vote. It's not right, it's not fair. “
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    </blockquote>This is sick and disgusting, no wonder the United States has the highest incarceration rate in the world. Whenever something bad happens we overreact like little bitches partly because we are fed bullshit by the mainstream media partly because our public education system has raised a generation of sheeple. But sure lets add more laws and send more old men to prison.
     
  2. Assault flint locks are no joke!
    He's probably a terrorist and more than likely racist!
     
  3. While I think it is silly, you'd also think an educator and a collector would already know the risk. :smoke:
     
  4. Fear mongering much? Muzzle loaded weapons and firearms made before 1829 (I think) aren't even legally considered firearms and as such can't be registered anyway. This is more of an issue of police overreach than "Draconian gun laws."
     
  5. Who is fear mongering? I am just stating the obvious and even preluded it with "it's silly". Still it is hard to picture him as ignorant of the laws for where he lives. I have little doubt that he knew the risk, yet decided it was worth it to add this to his collection.
     
    It's like picking up an ounce, hid that shit in the trunk, not next to your registration. :smoke:
     
  6. That wasn't a response towards you. It was towards Fox News and sensational journalists.
     
  7. I think it's 1898 not 1829
    Shit I had to look it up too haha

    This helps though

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  8. I filed for a pardon a while back and received a permit to legally own black powder guns. I was told due to gov't cut backs, the fbi. couldn't do a background check. I reside in Maine though. To me, that's like saying I can put a 50 caliber hole in "something" but nothing smaller.

    WTF???
     

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