Chemistry

Discussion in 'High Ideas' started by Pearledfatty5, Feb 15, 2015.

  1. I am an advanced placement chemistry student and I have just thought of a way to prove the effectiveness of bleach in your urine to pass a drug test. Most labs test for bleach so it will only be viable for home tests. Home tests test for a carboxyllic acid called THC-COOH, the bleach is one of the strongest bases you have at your house. By NO MEANS should you EVER ingest bleach, it will corrode your mouth, asophogas, and stomach and you WILL DIE! But adding some bleach to your pee will neutralize the acid group and remove the hydroxide (OH) off of the acid (COOH) and alter the makeup of it. Therefor it will no longer be present in the form of THC-COOH so it will test negative. As for how much bleach you should add, you don't want to add too much or it will smell strongly of bleach, too little and it may not neutralize enough of the acid to lower the levels below the threshold of the test. If you have recently smoked and are still high, THC-OH will be present, with a half life of around 6 hours, that then decomposes to the THC-COOH which is fat soluble and will appear in your urine with the excretion of liquid wastes from fatty foods. So the more recently you smoke the higher levels of the acid will be in your pee. This is called a metabolite, the metabolites are stored in fat cells and transported to the kidneys where they are filtered out into the urine. So the more recently your last smoke was the more bleach you need to add. Never more than 6-8 drops though. It will begin to smell heavily after that. The titration factor has to be high for small amount of bleach to neutralize that much acid unless the acid isn't quite as present in the urine. For every ml of the acid present another ml of base has to be present to fully neutralize. So say you have 30ml of urine being tested, since the urine is only a small percentage of the acid, 1ml of that is theoretically the acid the drug tests are testing for. You then need 1ml of the base or bleach to counteract. Bleach being the best because it is the strongest base you can get your hands on so it is more likely to have a 1:1 neutralization ratio where you'd have higher ratios with weaker bases. Got high and applied myself, weed doesn't kill brain cells. Weed can make you more insightful. Hope this was somewhat followable. Cut me some slack though, I'm stoned.
     
  2. Totally not a wall of text...
     
  3. Actually useful. So high concentration base could cancel out the THC-COOH. So, if I were to order a heavy base online, thoeretically, as long as I get some in the pee cup, I will pass? Because transport and the lab should mix it. As long as it is a compound they don't find it.
     
  4. Here is a list of several strong bases:

    Potassium hydroxide (KOH)
    Barium hydroxide (Ba(OH)
    2)
    Cesium hydroxide (CsOH)
    Sodium hydroxide (NaOH)
    Strontium hydroxide (Sr(OH)
    2)
    Magnesium hydroxide (Mg(OH)
    2)
    Calcium hydroxide (Ca(OH)2)
    Lithium hydroxide (LiOH)
    Rubidium hydroxide (RbOH)
    Here are some superbases:

    Butyl lithium (n-C4H9Li)
    Lithium diisopropylamide (LDA) [(CH3)2CH]2NLi
    Lithium diethylamide (LDEA) (C
    2H
    5)
    2NLi
    Sodium amide (NaNH2)
    Sodium hydride (NaH)
    Lithium bis(trimethylsilyl)amide [(CH
    3)
    3Si]
    2NLi
    Buy some of those. They can't be much online. When I get the money I will do some research of my own.
     
  5. #5 forty winks, Feb 16, 2015
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    Our grade 11 chem teacher taught us how to make hash oil ...
     
  6. What do you do with a sick chemist?
    If you can't helium, and you can't curium, then you might as well barium.


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  7. That's dope


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  8. Best joke ever.

    Sodium hydroxide is super toxic! As are many of those bases. I actually use sodium hydroxide when I make cold-processed soap:) I made the mistake of mixing the crystals and water in my sink without a window open and the fumes nearly burnt my throat up! I mix outside ALWAYS. Lesson learned:)

    I am taking Orgo Chem/biochem and we talked about acid-base reactions and some of what you explained up there. I just took a test which included functional groups (carboxylic acid, just like you mentioned), reactions such as hydrolysis, oxidation, reduction, etc.

    Very interesting stuff! I thoroughly enjoy chemistry. Although, your chemistry class might be a bit different than mine. I mostly study organic compounds (carbon-hydrogen bonds) and a very small amount of heteroatoms.
     

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