Play EteRNA and help with new RNA discoveries

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  1. #1 SlowMo, Feb 10, 2015
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    Want to be an RNA molecular engineer? Play EteRNA.
     
    If you're pretty good at games and puzzles and want to help find what could potentially be some very valuable and medically useful information regarding RNA, watch the video, below.
     
    By playing the game, EteRNA, you can discover possible RNA shapes that could prove to be very useful in a wide variety of biological-medical applications - by solving puzzles as an RNA molecular engineer.
     
    This endeavor makes use of your brain rather than just borrowing your computer's processing as in SETI@home and folding@home. [btw - it's fun to do while high :smoking: ]
     
    For some background see Wikipedia - EteRNA
     
    See RNA Virtual Lab
     
    Check out Nova's intro:
    [media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmOeHUBScY0[/media]
     
    EteRNA website
     
    Happy discovery!

     
  2. This is interesting.

    Would be nice to see things like this more often.

    Little known fact: the modern day stealth aircraft technology was discovered by civilians. They held a competition to see who could fool the military radars and the winner's design made it to production.

    Fascinating what average Joe's can do when allowed the chance

    -yuri
     
  3. #3 SlowMo, Feb 11, 2015
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    It is an interesting concept. I know many non-scientists - several are "stoners" in the truest sense and a few not even high school graduates - that are VERY clever puzzle solvers. They would be outstanding at this "game".
     
    There are millions of great gamers and puzzlers out there that could use their abilities to play and discover what could turn out to be important breakthroughs in science in general and medicine and molecular biology in particular. They just aren't aware of the opportunities available to use their talents. Imagine what a million brains can do when they play creatively! 
     
  4. I like this and will try to "play" more often than not. Awhile ago I signed up for something like this.. supposed to be like a game to help with DNA/RNA knowledge, but it's interface suuuuucked. This looks appealing.
     
     
    Source?
     
  5. Maybe not.. registration screen freezes on me.. :angry:  but least I got the tutorial done, I guess.
     
  6. #6 yurigadaisukida, Feb 11, 2015
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    It was in a documentary. I forget which one.

    I could probly fact check it but I don't have the desire to be "right".

    I just thought I'd share this interesting and relevent info

    If you are really curious about it tho I can try to find iit again

    -yuri
     
  7. I'm only curious cause you made another military related claim in here before and I'm 99.99% sure that it was bunk.. and doing a quick search, can't find anything remotely related to the military getting stealth tech from a civilization competition. Citizen science is a great thing.. but I'm pretty sure stealth technology wasn't citizen produced. When it comes to top secret technology, the military is pretty stealthy about.. usually don't let the public know a damn thing until they've been using the tech for 10-20 years, then they even admit its existence, then another 10-20 til they trickle it down to the public.
     
  8. believe what you want man.

    It was in the documentary. I have no reason to believe its a lie.

    -yuri
     
  9. Well if you don't question documentaries, then I hope you don't watch The History Channel.. lol, their documentaries are usually junk and full of misinformation so they can entertain the masses. Only ask cause I remember you claiming SEGA got in trouble for stealing technology from the military, which isn't true. Just because you have no reason to not trust someone else's information doesn't mean their information is right.. and if you just buy it without challenge, it often gets spread.. through outlets such as internet forums.
     
  10. its not that I don't question them.

    Obviously I do. I'm not an ancient alien theorist.

    In this case there was no reason to question it. Its not like they were making unsubstantiated claims.

    You guys are acting like I'm.claiming the pyramids were built by aliens. I'm sorry I shared this I just thought it was interesting.

    -yuri
     
  11. Never said you were an ancient alien theorist.. but misinformation is still misinformation, no matter what the content. I hear things in documentaries too, I do a lot of research myself though cause I'm a born skeptic. If I hear something that sounds true but cannot confirm for myself and if I present it.. I'm not going to present it as a fact. You could say "well.. they don't have to take my word for it, they can research what I say.." and I would respond with saying that you should take that advice as well.
     
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    That was not a citizen competition.. if it was any kind of competition, it'd have been a competition between corporations. The government approached 3 corporations, in secret, and asked them to try to design a stealth aircraft.. and they all worked on projects with the military before. I feel like a dick for derailing and I probably shoulda just let it be.. but that idea that it was a citizen thing is wrong. That was all done in secret.. with teams of corporate scientists, began in the mid 70's and the public didn't even know of the existence of the Nighthawk until 88. Like I said, the military keeps their new toys under wraps for 10-20 years, give them time to play with their toys.. then they reveal it's existence to the public. They use it for another 10-20 and then the technology gets filtered down to us. That's how it usually goes.. new technology is kept in secrecy. Since technology is always advancing, there comes a time when that new technology is no longer new and they are working on something better.
     
    Like I said, citizen science is great.. I made a thread awhile back with a site that indexes citizen science projects: Help science help you Those things are awesome, getting the public involved.. but, misinformation is misinformation and stealth development wasn't a citizen thing.. it was corporations that often hold government contracts in secret.
     
  13. Corporate scientists are civilians. And it was a competition.

    Nothing I said was wrong. The secrecy is irrelevent

    I realize its not the ssame as this rna puzzle thing

    -yuri
     
  14. Scientists that are employed under secret government contracts aren't the same as civilians entering into a competition. All the companies contracted to build them a stealth aircraft were companies that the government contracted to design and build them things before. Skunk Works, the people who designed the plane, is a division of Lockheed.. and they designed several other planes for the government.

    So no, you are wrong.. unless you want to play you lame semantics game. By your "logic", if corporate scientists who are employed by the government in secret are regular civilians, then pretty much everyone and anyone would be a civilian and your comment wouldn't matter anyway because everything would be done by civilians so there'd be no point in picking out a specific example. Scientists contracted by the government, civilians. Police and firemen, civilians. Politicians, civilians. Anyone employed by the government would be a civilian, including the president.. by your logic that is.
     
  15. #16 yurigadaisukida, Feb 13, 2015
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    I feel like your arguing just to argue again

    I didn't intend to make any claims or anything I was just sharing interesting information.

    Cut it out

    -yuri
     
  16.  
    This all started when you dropped the F word, fact. You are notorious for trying to pass off bullshit as a fact.. and the majority of the time it's nowhere near a fact. No matter who the person is, if they try to claim a fact, then it better be a fact otherwise they're just a shit liar. Misinformation is annoying and even more so in the science section.. so I will cut out calling you out on your bullshit if you stop spouting bullshit, deal?
     
    Now for future reference, if you want to be correct with your statement.. it should go something like "It is a known fact that Lockheed's Skunk Works developed stealth technology under secret military contracts in the 70's.. who has been working with the government since the 40's to develop them planes." That is so far from the "average Joe" that it's just stupid.. just like when you thought SEGA stole military technology and tried passing your bullshit to others.
     
  17. Of you say so

    -yuri
     
  18. You do what I must do twenty times a day - hitting that damned o key instead of the i one.  :laughing:
     
  19. Editing is a pain on my phone so I usually just ignore it

    -yuri
     

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