How did you become a Theist?

Discussion in 'Religion, Beliefs and Spirituality' started by pickledpie, Jan 31, 2015.

  1. When did you come to see and believe in a higher power?

    Currently I would call myself a panentheist. I came to label myself as such as a result of my own intuitive experience and a search for truth.
     
  2. Kind of the same way, but have to give a nod to drugs too, as my most significant spiritual experiences were under the influence of them, shame we're banned from discussing spiritual tools however.
     
  3. #3 pickledpie, Jan 31, 2015
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    Absolutely, though my most spiritual and connected feelings emerged from weed, and perhaps a little of that empathy producing drug. I mean, once there is ego dissolution, the idea of self kind of losing any traction, reality becomes so colourful and invigorating. The self that we are seems to take on a whole new meaning. All of reality is just music, notes upon notes, all of different vibrations, manifesting in so many ways. Though there is one Word, one Shabad issuing forth from the one source. I've recently been reminded of where I've found the most sublime truth, in the traditions of my own father and mother, in Sikhism. In it is the divine message of universal love, service to humanity, and meditation on God's name.
     
  4. I was raised a theist so I cannot say exactly how it came about. I will say, I was never satisfied with the Biblical Christianity i was raised with, however i take away an underlying truth within it. I spent considerable time challenging my beliefs, most of which are now contrary to my upbringing. But, i remain a theist due to many considerations.
     
  5. #5 esseff, Jan 31, 2015
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    The idea of believing or not believing has come and gone for me over the years, but the feeling itself never seems to go away completely, just becomes more or less noticeable depending on how I'm living my life.
     
    In fact, being brought up Jewish, and finding myself in its religious schools until 11, gave me something to rebel against, and when I rejected its control at around 7, like many who reject the constructs they're brought up with, for a time, decided there can be nothing else. Some never recover from this.
     
    It wasn't really until I started expanding my mind with the help of the plant that those feelings I used to have when I was a kid, before they were compromised by the ideas imposed on me by religion, started to reappear, and while I don't label myself, I cannot deny there is something there that need not be named, yet always reveals itself when I need to be reminded.
     
  6. Parents converted me. Then they had a piece of my dick chopped off. Undid the first part, now I just have to grow a new foreskin and I'll be complete again.
     
  7. #7 Messiah Decoy, Feb 1, 2015
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    Mind-expanding drugs + schizophrenic delusions = realization that the secular "reality" is just a curtain that hides the spiritual world

    Now I'm a deist.
     
  8. #8 dannyszu, Feb 1, 2015
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    I can't say that I am... the question of theism goes back to its very questioning. No mind, no question. Existence has yet to show me otherwise.

    Edit: in regards to a higher power. I feel there has always been a lingering belief of a higher power, natural law/order. Daily it seems as tho I am reminded to follow creation and not go astray if I am to do what I'm supposed to.
     
  9. #9 Thejourney318, Feb 1, 2015
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    Experiences I have had with dreams, extreme synchronicity, and other things make me feel like I know there is more to reality than people generally think. Something bigger. Though theism is a strong word, well with typical connotations, but really depends on how you define it. But belief that there is more, absolutely.
     
  10. I was born to religious parents
     
  11. As above, so below. Everything unites to form complimentary systems. Creation and destruction is an illusion, it's all just shifting forms. Yet in them is the entirety of all experience. From the cells in my body, to the nations on this earth. From atoms to galaxies. So many conditions, so many ways of being. Can we escape from the order of reality? It's ordered disorder, or disordered order. Distinctions are found and worlds are bound around them. The music of the cosmos is ever strumming this reality into existence. What power! What beauty! What shapes! What forms!
     
    How do we extricate ourselves from the universality of it? The unity? The reality of it's singleness? The reality of it's reality?
     
    This human is not real. Yet we see a human, we say this is a human. But where is the human? It's made up. What's real is not this human. What's real is what is beyond the qualities that make this human. As we have separated human from the world, so can we say there is one from which we cannot separate. We speak of his ways through our own experience of them. That is God.
     
  12. Also I forgot dreams of the afterlife.

    Both heaven and hell.
     
  13. Many convosations in the pub with a old philosophy teacher brought me from atheist to Diest the mathematics of this earth and our universe is to precise to be a all out accident. I believe in a creator/system but one without scripture.
     
  14. #14 Messiah Decoy, Feb 1, 2015
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    This is what Bill Gates said about religion:

    "I agree with people like Richard Dawkins that mankind felt the need for creation myths. Before we really began to understand disease and the weather and things like that, we sought false explanations for them. Now science has filled in some of the realm – not all – that religion used to fill. But the mystery and the beauty of the world is overwhelmingly amazing, and there's no scientific explanation of how it came about. To say that it was generated by random numbers, that does seem, you know, sort of an uncharitable view [laughs]. I think it makes sense to believe in God, but exactly what decision in your life you make differently because of it, I don't know."

    Sound like a deist to me.

    Anyway, I came to a similar realization about how God makes sense but it focused on how convenient our Earth's position and human evolution was so I agree that these things are unlikely to be a freak accident and God is real.

    Plus the concept of dreaming (our brains creating media in our brains while we sleep) is pretty fucking trippy if you think about it. Seems like something that was put there so anyone can have "visions".
     
  15. #15 didier12, Feb 1, 2015
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    Well I think it's just amazing that we have anything at all, could so easily have been nothing.  Then that something happened to create a beautiful universe not just matter, but space aswell for the matter to move things to happen things to interact.  Then of course conscious life came in to existence, the thing that gave the meaningless have meaning, the thing that allowed the universe to be seen, the thing that allowed love to be felt, pain all the emotions, the thing that created "experience", how lucky we to experience.  Well if you think all that came about by chance, you've made a bigger leap of faith than me imo.

    Also synchronicity was a HUGE factor in me becoming a deist as someone mentioned above.
     
  16. I must ask, why did synchronicities lead you to be a deist? I personally think they just support an instantaneously interconnected 3d spatial reality via a 4th spatial dimension. Its likely similar to quantum entanglement or morphogenic fields.
     
  17. #17 didier12, Feb 2, 2015
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    It was more having what felt very very much like a spiritual experience, but having that tiny ounce of doubt due to being on drugs, but then having something coincidental happening outside of my head and therefore unaffected by drugs which carries strong meaning relative to the experience that is merely too coincidental and meaningful to be coincidence.  

    It's not that synchronicity created my deistic view, but rather confirming the already existing view and experience to be more than drug induced dillusions.

    Edit:  I have absolutely no idea what your view is, but it sounds interesting haha,
     

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