cloning flowering plants?

Discussion in 'Advanced Growing Techniques' started by massive dynamic, Jan 29, 2015.

  1. Can you clone a plant that is already flowering? should the new clones be introduced to a 12/12 light cycle right away?

     
  2. #2 pointswest, Jan 29, 2015
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    Cloning flowering plants is called monster cropping.  Take the cuttings the 2-3d week of flowering for best results.  Grow the cuttings in 18-24 hours of daylength.  It will take a month or two for the plant to reverse to veg state.  Do not grow at 12/12 until the plant has started to veg normally in the veg stage, or your cutting will just continue to flower and will not get any larger than the cutting.  Cloning flowering plants produce large bushy plants when revegged correctly and grown to flower.
     
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  3. True, personally I wouldn't cut clones in flower. Why wait 1-2 months? For me it makes no sense, I can understand the first week of flower when the plant shows its sex. When it does that clone her but not when into flower.


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  4. You wait an extra month or two because it produces bigger plants


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    Plus when those 2 months are up your flowering plants will be done. It seems like a way to keep a perpetual grow going, just without a standalone mother(s).
     
  6. Cloning flowering plants can be done up until the last week of harvest? The longer into flowering, the more time/difficult it is to keep it alive and eventually get the plant to revert back to veg. The resulting clone is definitely a bushy beast, but the time/energy spent reverting the plant is less productive than cloning non flowering plants.
    I use this technique just for saving mothers. Often times, I cannot determine which phenotype is going to be the best simply from the size/characteristics until late into flower. My goal is the best end product, not the fastest, most yielding way to the end. So, I need to know what the end product is roughly going to be before I determine which phenos get saved and which don't.

    Hope that helps.
     
  7. Don't cut on budding plants 😨 if you have to you can and it will clone but never a good idea.
     
  8. 24 hour light is the best to get it back into a veg state and let it root.
     
  9. I have gotten a lot of great comments here from you guys about the efficacy of cloning flowering plants. More specifically, I'm interested ink cloning branches that are well into flowering and putting those clones directly into a 12/12 light cycle. I'm not looking to reintroduce them to the veg. state. I'm trying to introduce more light to branches that were not getting enough light before being cut. Will these cut down branches that have been dipped in cloning agent and introduced to a more robust light get bud development that is more like the upper branches of the plant it was cut off of.
     
  10. I'm pretty sure you will have to re-veg them to get a root system going. They won't just take off and continue budding from where they left off on the flowering plant. That would make things a little too easy lol.
     
  11. #11 killset, Mar 15, 2015
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    LST them to get more light to your bud sites. Cloning them straight into 12/12 is just going to slow them down. They're not going to do much of anything until they get a good root system. I've cloned from flower and its a slower process then cloning from veg. Your going to waste precious flowering time on developing roots instead of growing buds. Keep them on the plant and LST or get more light.....or both
     
  12. #12 massive dynamic, Mar 16, 2015
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    Well, I recently topped two plants that had vigorous growth. When I introduced them to 12/12, they had substantial vegetative growth and doubled in sized from 2 ft two  4 ft in the first 2 to 3 weeks of 12/12 light. At this point I decided to top them mostly because by grow tent is only 6' tall. Despite having loads of vegetative growth during this time period, bud development was minimal. I got my labels mixed up, so I'm not certain which strain they are. But when I topped these two plants, I couldn't even be certain that they were actually female plants. I cut them about  or 5 nodes from the top of the plant.  Using a clean sharp razor, I cut 3 or  branches off each topped section. I was out of cloning gel so I just soaked some coco in a sugar daddy solution and planted the topped sections in the coco. I placed a quart jar over each topped section replanted in coco to maintain high humidity and put the clones back in my flowering room. It has been about 10 days since I replanted the tops and I am happy to report that they are definitely growing buds. As you can see in the pictures, the leaves are curling, but these clones had barely any bud growth when I cut them and now they are sustaining bud development in 5 or 6 locations on each clone. I'm not sure if there has been any root development but it appears to not be necessary for bud growth. I'll post updated pics in a week or two
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  13. #14 massive dynamic, Mar 16, 2015
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    These are the plants that they were cut from
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