Need professional advice on wiring my grow room

Discussion in 'Grow Room Design/Setup' started by coopergrow, Jan 19, 2015.

  1. I am setting up a room that is 13x12.
    I will have (6) 1000w lights, 24,000 BTU AC, dehumidifier, (2) circulating fans, a 6" exhaust fan, the CO2 regulators and the pumps for the hydroponic system.
    I probably need to run some thicker wires to the room.
    I need help to determine how thick it needs to be, what kind of circuit breakers should I use?
    Should I run 240 volts or 120?
     
    I plan to set up a new electric box inside of the room, and from it wire the wall plugs.
     
    PS: If there is any other information you need to know, please let me know and I will get back to you ASAP.
     
    Thanks in advance!

     
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  2. Oh and the room is 100ft away from the panel
     
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  3. #3 snoopdog6502, Jan 19, 2015
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    I ran off a 60 amp breaker 240vac to feed a #4-3 power cable at the main to a sub panel where I added circuits.
     
    You have ac in yours so you will want your AC to be 220 that will eat 2 slots in your sub panel. the rest can be 120vac.
     
    You will want 60-80 amp breaker to feed the sub and run #2-3 cable, from the you can use 12-3 cable for outlets.
    This feeds 2 of my grow rooms and my glass blowing studio with the oxygen concentrator and kiln.
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    Easy stuff $200-$300 if you can do it yourself and you sure as hell can. Good cable like the #2-3 might cost $8 a foot.
     
    100  FEET? oh shit you need to get aluminum 2/0
     
    http://www.wireandcabletogo.com/2-0-3-1-ground-SER-Aluminum-Building-Wire.html?gclid=CjwKEAiA0O2lBRDOrPX4oJP3t2oSJACjpaHADybjwbHW5UXipTYRSBUwgM8jTeFspqq1JIid1NtlbxoCt33w_wcB
     
    OR BIGGER!
    http://www.wireandcabletogo.com/4-0-3-2-0-ground-SER-Aluminum-Building-Wire.html?gclid=CjwKEAiA0O2lBRDOrPX4oJP3t2oSJACjpaHA_SCREtlQgD8gU4bVkzSbPYm8ipdSv8_g5MSfJofSGxoC3Sfw_wcB
     
     
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  4. don't go #3 ... go #2 .. you need to consider loss at 100ft .. not to mention 80% rule.. never go over 80% of your breaker... I wouldn't go 60 amp either .. go 100amp ... I would assume at that distance your running it to a garage ...remember  to bury it at 2 ft in a pvc conduit and use a wet rated line ... but I would just have an electrician install the breaker then wire the room on your own ...
     
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  5. @snoopdog6502
     
    Thank you very  much for your input!
    I have done smaller electric jobs before. I just want to make sure everything is right before moving on.
     
     
     
    Actually the electric box is next to the garage and I want to use the furthest room in the second floor. What do you mean by bury it 2ft ?
     
    I have enough knowledge to install the breakers and run the wires. I just need to know the correct parts so I dont set my house on fire using the wrong wires and breakers.
     
    @topic
     
    I am thinking about using this cable (www.wireandcabletogo.com/4-0-3-2-0-ground-SER-Aluminum-Building-Wire.html) as @snoopdog6502 suggested with a 100amp breaker.
    In case I plan to change to a bigger operation, will I have some extra amps to use?
     
    Best regards
     
  6. #6 InkOnMyFanLeaves420, Jan 20, 2015
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    if it goes outdoors it has to be buried 18 inches by code.. you always go 2 ft tho .. that way a stake in the yard or sheer bad luck will keep the pvc from shattering... def go #2 tho .. 100ft is a long distance your gonna have loss.. you need to account for that not to mention what your gunna runn off it .. the lights a/c and dehumidifier are gunna take up 80% of a 60 amp ... the a/c unit is gunna trip every time... the start up is brutal on an a/c unit that strong... go 100 amp with #2 wire.. you can avoid the wet rating if its inside
     
  7. To calculate the required wattage rating needed to supply the subpanel, multiply the total wattage times 1.25 to get the adjusted load. This safety adjustment is required by the National Electrical Code. This allows a buffer for voltage drop on the feeder circuit.
     
    The subpanel must be fed with the appropriate sized circuit breaker in order to have adequate protection for the panel and the wiing supplying it. To find the right sized breaker, simply divide the adjusted wattage by 240 volts and you'll arrive at the rated amperage needed for your subpanel. This, however, may not be a common circuit breaker size. In that case you'll need to choose the appropriate sized breaker to fit the application.

    Choose a double-pole circuit breaker equal to or larger than the amperage you calculated. This is the amperage that the circuit breaker needs to be to safely guard your feed. For instance, if the load calculation comes out to 48 amps, then a double-pole circuit breaker of 50 amps is required to protect it.
     
     watts  desc
     6000  lights (youll need ballasts added into this plus youll need a controller)
     2740  a/c (energy efficient model)
       487  dehumidifier ( energy efficient model)
       240  circulating fans (4 min fans needed for that size op)
       230  inline fan 10in (you'll NEVER be able to use a 6inch with more than 1 1000w light)
       100  pump (generous because I don't know what system your using)
     1800  co2 reg (min size for that space)
    --------
    11597
    x 1.25 (80% rule max load check)
    --------
    14496 (total safe wattage)
    /   240
    --------
       60.4
    already over the safe size and that's not including a few things and also me being generous and using energy efficient... go 100amp ..
    then because its over 50' you have to go a size larger on the wire size because of line heat .. you can use a #2 aluminum ... or larger... be safe... then use 20 amp breakers in it to prevent that light from popping the breaker on it when you power up ... the fans and regulators can use 15's ... your running entirely too much lighting inside.. your gunna end up drawing a lot of attention to yourself... also 6 1000w lights is a bit extreme.. that 25ft x 25ft coverage ... the 10in high velocity cant even keep up with the ... your gunna need 2-3 .. which is gunna be noisy.. so you will need a large heavy napped carbon filter.. industrial size for sure... your hydro res. will have to be drained once a month so your gunna need to have a sink in there .. or your gunna be lugging water down the hall.. I would get atleast 3 controllers for the lights.. dual controllers are sweet in larger ops.. I have 4 to keep my veg and bloom chambers smooth ... you can get em with probes for the hydro system for ph and ppm .. which will save on testers ... they also run hygro and temp ... good luck hope this helped
     
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  8.  
    Its indoor, so I wont need to worry about burying it.
     
    I have (4) open hooded lights and (2) hooded lights to use with the fan, I might get another 6".
    I will be growing on a room that is 13,5" x 15", with (4) 4"x4" drain tables, do you really think this is too much light for this size operation?
    I will look on that and maybe take two light back to the store.
     
    I already have everything set up, just need to finish the wiring.
     
  9. I dont know how legal you are but if you are legal filters and shit are not needed. Spend that money on a kick ass AC/climate control.
     
    I would run the 6,000 w of light. more light = more bud every time.
     
    3,000 over 2 4x4 (4x8) will kick ass. that is what my flower room is going to have is 3,000 over a 4x8. 2,000 over the last 2 crops did awesome.
     
  10.  he is gunna scorch those tops and dry the soil to fast... its too much light in a 4x4 your talking about 60000 luminens if he has standard hps and mh lights... the plant will eat too fast , wont veg right ... i have seen it happen .. 2 lights per room is perfectly fine ... two hps and one mh for flower will work but 3 in a 4x4 is too much
     
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  11. #11 snoopdog6502, Jan 21, 2015
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    read what I wrote 3 over a 4 x 8 flood table  hopeful not in a tent.
     

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