You're the only one caught up about purity here. The bad parallel is that you're applying western standards to the eastern world and one of the most exceptional nations in the world at that. Something very western-centric. Shinto and eastern religions are very ancestral, the Chinese tried to keep out the mongels, Japan tried to stay isolated but pillaged other nations based on superiority. The eastern idea of purity is far different than the western. Even then you're applying very modern and recent ideas to the entire world. A couple hundred years ago, Irish/Italian would not be considered pure. But as you said. Cultures accumulate and change over the course of hundreds of years. So then also has the idea of cultural and racial purity of whiteness. Something that has not happened to Asia.
Yeah I'm "caught up" in the concept of purity. It's central to white supremacist ideology and central to the topic of this thread. Both white supremacist and the Japanese believe in the concept of purity. But only one has valid reasoning behind it.
Shinto and eastern religions are very ancestral, the Chinese tried to keep out the Mongols, Japan tried to stay isolated but pillaged other nations based on superiority. The eastern idea of purity is far different than the western. Even then you're applying very modern and recent ideas to the entire world. A couple hundred years ago, Irish/Italian would not be considered pure. But as you said. Cultures accumulate and change over the course of hundreds of years. So then also has the idea of cultural and racial purity of whiteness. Something that has not happened to Asia.
I didn't shift anything. I address the ideal of purity in the OP. and what exactly is the modern definition of purity according to modern white supremacist and what gives it validity?
I can't speak for white supremacist and validity in this case is subjective. The difference here is the change of what is considered white because of the shifts, changing of borders, colonization, geopolitics and general nature of Europe and America are completely and inherently different to what is considered "pure" or homogenous in Asia.
I wanted your opinion on the validity. And I'm saying the white supremacist definition of purity is bullshit. The Asian version is not only different, it actually makes sense.
Well, I guess the problem is that you're implying people mixing ethnically aren't racially pure. Then applying that idea racially to the ethnocentrism of the East. It doesn't help that you're caught up in the definitions of hate groups when I'm arguing reasons with geopolitics and sociology.
I'm arguing that the term "ethnocentric purity" makes sense. The term "racial purity" does not. and sociology professors don't commit mass genocide or terrorism which is why I'm focused on the definition of purity from white supremacist.
I'm going to assume you're talking about the Nazis, which again is a specific example and a bad parallel. Their reason for hating the Jews stems from how the Germans were politically neutered after WWI. They were certainly caught up on the idea of Aryan purity but they didn't commit genocide based on that. I consider Jews Middle Eastern but I know many here would consider them white. I honestly don't know what you're arguing or the point you're trying to make. I've already explained the differences between the West and the East and why the are that way. You're the only one trying to validify "racism". The only thing I have tried to show validly of is psychological prejudice via experience.
I was really talking about neo-Nazis who I consider capable of genocide and the Klu Klux Klan who have committed terrorism in the past. The point I'm trying to make is simple. The concept of ethnocentric purity makes more sense than anyone's concept of racial purity. Is that really so strange and confusing?
Not if the OP was a loaded question, in which case I don't see the purpose of this thread, the point of the many questions you posed or the parallels you made were meant to lead. I believe neo-nazi are far too fringe and small in number to get any kind of following in the current liberal world to commit genocide. Even in parts of the world where nationalism is ripe. Also, you know you can be National Socialist and have nothing to do with white supremacy?
I already told you twice the purpose of the thread in very basic terms but you keep acting confused and frustrated. You obviously dislike my attack on racism so you're now bashing the entire thread.
If you consider one form of racism better than another, how is that an attack on it? I've done nothing but provide sincere response far from bashing.
Not really. It's considered racist to avoid high-crime areas. Because those areas are predominantly black. Didn't you hear about the controversy over that app that tells you when you're in a bad neighborhood? I don't care if 99% of blacks aren't murderers, if 90% of murderers are black then avoiding them all together is a safe bet. Ya dig? You really believe that "racial purity" and skin color is the reason white people don't like to be around blacks?
I'm not the one who called the app racist. I'm just stating that I wouldn't avoid a neighborhood because the killers there are black. It doesn't matter what color the killers are. You act like other races don't murder. Why don't you avoid everyone? 84% of white homicide victims are killed by other whites. Avoiding blacks doesn't make you safe. It makes you paraniod and bad at math. Everyone segregates. Whites like to be around whites. Latinos want to be around Latinos. Blacks around blacks. Then there are exceptions. I know white people who move to the city because rural and suburban areas are boring as fuck. and white supremacist use racial purity to justify keeping the races separate. I'm attacking their reasoning behind segregation, not the general reasoning based on real eastate value and school quality.
They are a declining population, it's estimated that by 2060 they will shrink from 128 million to 87 and the figures don't look to promising after that. Those Japs are almost like an endangered species, someone should set up a racial conservation charity for them or something! Oh yes & apparently they have the most evolved form of the human body of all humanoids, as far as racism in Japan goes, they should be sending out Viagra pills to everyone rather than showing interest in far right parties that for ultra Jap nationalism. SN: A friend of mine was at a conservative Jap rally against far Japs recently.