Help me pick out a new car

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  1. #41 invinciblejets, Jan 8, 2015
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    wholly shit ford needed 3.8 liters to make 145hp😐.......pig iron
    My 96 Hyundai Elantra made 140 hp from a Hyundai developed 2.0 liter four... Sad

    Even 225 hp for the v8 is sad!! Can't believe people think these American v8s are good ...
    A black top sr20det makes 245hp again 2.0 liters...
    Give the japs or euros 4.6 liters and let's see the hp numbers and an engine that most owners don't assume is at the end of its life by 100k

    But still in America the common conception is that American muscle cars are big and more powerful than little jap ricers...no they just make a growling noise and are badly made and designed.

    American cars like the mustang remind me of those brands of stuff you only see at like Costco where they give you a bunch of it but it's never really good.

    Ok I'm done now exile me😂
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  2. This is the one!
     

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  3. They never made a fox "body". Its the fox platform, commonly - and mistakenly, referred to as a fox body. The above clearly states that they indeed continued the fox platform, and used a V6
    All I drive is Panthers (Crown vic/Grand Marquis/Town Car)
    Its a Ford thing :bongin:
     
    #1) They calculate horsepower a little differently than we do :laughing:
    #2) The HP POTENTIAL is much higher with a larger engine. There is no replacement, for displacement :ey:
    #3) Some little buzzing 4 banger with a fart cannon is not impressing anyone :bongin:
    #4) MURICA!!! :metal: :laughing:
     
  4. #44 invinciblejets, Jan 9, 2015
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    Keep telling your self that bud truth is the truth and American v8s are fucking junk
    Lexus made a 4.0 v8 for the ls400 and sc400 in the late 80s with quad cams 32 valves and 250hp for "smoothness" not even for power! Yet it made more! Lol! that was ten years before that shit v8 was made lol come on facts are facts.
    And first I've heard of a them measuring hp different? If it was in nm or kW than you would be right


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  5. A 4 banger or an inline 6 can make way better noises than a v8, but a cammed v8 does sound great. Ever heard an srt, vr6 or 2j with two step? It'll make any v8 shit...
     
  6. #46 invinciblejets, Jan 9, 2015
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    You are just wrong bud. if you have to pull out the ;

    "Murcia!!"

    You know your wrong and should just stop now.


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  7. #47 NorthernAutos, Jan 9, 2015
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    Hahaha this.


    I'm not hating, I love ALL types of cars... Supras, DSM's, Mustangs, Exotics, Vettes... But I love my small boosted engines

    I can only imagine how much you hate on Rotary's hahaha
     
  8. Even I hate on rotarys lol


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  9. Ya from 94-2005 mustang would end up being a Fox4 chassis, it was related to the fox chassis available from 79-93, but different wheelbase, width, etc. 
     
  10. Oh and I messed up the 1uzfe does not make 250hp
    It makes 261
    Lol.
    Ok I'm done now.


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  11. a 5.0 has low hp STOCK but put hci on it and with the right combo you can be pretty deep into the 3's at the wheels, throw some boost at it and your really making some power. Ford 3.6 ecoboost is real strong for its displacement too, the japs are using boost which boosts the volume of the engine so a 2.0 @15 psi is sucking the air of a 4.0 liter v8 so while this is greater than a 5.0's 225 its close
     
  12. That sounds pretty good to me
    Especially when a stock sr20 only runs 7psi.



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  13. I don't think PSI is a good unit to go by, since the size of the turbo will make as big of a difference.... A PTE67/66 @15psi would suck way more than any stock turbo at 15psi....


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  14. #54 mercinariesgtr, Jan 9, 2015
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    yah so i mean cu-per-cu of air the sr is running more efficiently but in HP comparisons per displacement citing boosted cars is somewhat cheating. Its the same thing as rotaries, a 5 liter 8 rotor (not sure how many rotors would make up 5.0) wouild make crazy power considering a 1.3l makes around 180 or w/e. Some smaller 4-bangers get good efficiency, with my 4age its 1.6 l and made 115 hp, at 3.8l in theory youd have 350 hp.
     
    edit: i use psi since atmospheric pressure is 14.7 psi so in theory everytime 1bar is twice as much oxygen in a given space since the whole pvnrt stuff. Its the same principal that map sensors use, obviously the world isnt perfect but its not a crazy way to think about it. The size issue is due to efficiency of the turbo your using, your big turbo will be able to handle the 15 psi easier but a psi is a psi, you go biggger because your powerband falls off due to improper turbo
     
  15. #55 invinciblejets, Jan 9, 2015
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    You can never compare a Rotary to a piston engine.
    They are different that's why I never bring them up in discussion.

    4age is a great engine to compare tho it's na and super efficient


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  16. Sorry so you're saying if I had an Evo (let's just say), and I'm running 15lbs on the stock TD05 making 300whp... If I go bigger turbo and the same psi my power will be the same? I don't think so :p

    (I could've completely misunderstood your post)

    And tuning is where you fix that powerband...


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  17. Different strokes.....
    Didnt mean to start a war :laughing:
     
  18. No war here, I just like car talk haha


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  19. this is theoretical since we dont have a built examples were referencing but one psi is one psi. A larger turbo will spool to a boost level at lower rpm's so it will be working more efficiently, cooler, and making more power. Hp is also a factor of tq so something that revs out and doesnt start spinning the turbo outside of its efficiency map will be making a lot more hp than a stock car's turbo thats sized to be a DD for the masses with nice midrange tq
     
  20. All 4.6 L 4-valve engines featured aluminum engine blocks with 6-bolt main bearing caps, the only exception being the 2003–2004 SVT Cobra which had a 4-bolt main cast iron block. The 1999 and earlier engines featured an aluminum block cast in Italy by Fiat subsidiary Teksid S.p.A. Since 1996, all of the 4.6 L 4-valve engines manufactured for use in the SVT Cobra have been hand-built by SVT technicians at Ford's Romeo, Michigan plant.<sup>[7]</sup>
    The 4-valve DOHC 4.6 L engine was on the Ward's 10 Best Engines list for 1996 and 1997.
    Vehicles equipped with the 32-valve DOHC 4.6 L include the following:
    • 1993–1998 Lincoln Mark VIII, 280 hp (209 kW) and 285 lb·ft (386 N·m)
    • 1995–1998 Lincoln Continental, 260 hp (194 kW) and 265 lb·ft (359 N·m)
    • 1995–1998 Lincoln Mark VIII LSC, 290 hp (216 kW) and 295 lb·ft (400 N·m)
    • 1996–1998 Ford Mustang SVT Cobra, 305 hp (227 kW) and 300 lb·ft (407 N·m)
    • 1997–1999 Marcos Mantis, 327 hp (244 kW) and 317 lb·ft (430 N·m)
    • 1998–1999 Marcos Mantis GT (supercharged), 506 hp (377 kW) and 317 lb·ft (430 N·m)
    • 1997–1999 Panoz AIV Roadster, 305 hp (227 kW) and 300 lb-ft (407 N-m)
    • 1999/2001 Ford Mustang SVT Cobra, 320 hp (239 kW) and 317 lb·ft (430 N·m)
    • 1999–2002 Lincoln Continental, 275 hp (205 kW) and 275 lb·ft (373 N·m)
    • 2000–2009 Panoz Esperante, 305 hp (227 kW) and 300 lb·ft (407 N·m) <sup>[8]</sup>
    • 2000–2001 Qvale Mangusta, 320 hp (239 kW) and 317 lb·ft (430 N·m)
    • 2003 Ford Mustang Mach 1, 305 hp (227 kW) and 320 lb·ft (434 N·m)
    • 2003–2004 Ford Mustang SVT Cobra, Iron block, Supercharged, 390 hp (291 kW) and 390 lb·ft (529 N·m)
    • 2003–2005 Lincoln Aviator, 302 hp (225 kW) and 318 lb·ft (431 N·m)
    • 2003–2004 Mercury Marauder, 302 hp (225 kW) and 318 lb·ft (431 N·m)
    • 2003–2005 MG X-Power SV, 320 hp (239 kW) and 317 lb·ft (430 N·m)
    • 2004 Ford Mustang Mach 1, 310 hp (231 kW) and 335 lb·ft (454 N·m)<sup>[9]</sup>
    • 2004–2006 Koenigsegg CCR V8, 806 hp (601 kW) and 680 lb·ft (922 N·m)
     
    Like I said.. HP POTENTIAL
     

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