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Mixing shatter/bho with 151/everclear?

Discussion in 'Weed Edibles' started by showbe345, Dec 28, 2014.

  1. #1 showbe345, Dec 28, 2014
    can you just mix medical grade shatter/bho with 151/rum and use it as a tincture? Ive read mixed things on this and havent really seen any one way that works many times after google searching.

    I am trying to do this without heat. Wouldnt it just dissolve in the alcohol and get stronger over time like how green dragon does with buds? Like how people shake alcohol/buds to get green dragon over a months time.

    Saw a girl on youtube do this with buds grinded up in a coffee grinder in a mason jar with ever clear shaking for 3 minutes and she says it works after 3 minutes of continious shaking. 

     
  2. #2 Jimmy Carter, Dec 28, 2014
    medical grade? lol
     
    Its way more effective if you decarb the oil first so its orally activated.
     
  3. #3 showbe345, Jan 1, 2015
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    Ok how about Dank shatter? I can get street or medical shatter, I prefer getting it from a dispensary since I know it will be purged correctly since they get it from reputable companies. 

    Ive never decarbed oil. How do you do it? Wouldnt it start like smoking away in the oven?


    When you make it into oil though doesnt it go through a heating process when purged? Ive read of people just putting there bho in alcohol and dissolving it. But only like 1 to 2 people on forums have said it worked. I want to know a good way to do it. Ive read of one way where this guy put the bho and alcohol in a mason jar into a bowl of boiling water to cook it but like the other guys only 1 person said they tried it.

    I want to know of a good method if their is any where I wouldnt waste it. If I leave it in the alcohol for a couple weeks would can you avoid having to decarb the oil?
     
  4. #4 Jimmy Carter, Jan 1, 2015
    where are you from? nothing wrong with what you called it, I just think its funny when people say 'medical grade' :p
     
    decarbing oil is no different than decarbing herb, just pop it in the oven at 250 for about 20-30 minutes. the longer you decarb, the more stoney it will be usually. you will definitely be able to taste it, if you have it mixed strong, good oil tastes good though so just dont use crap.
     
    why are you so against decarbing? you want it to work right? if you dont want to feel like you just wasted money, decarb it ;)
     
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  5. #5 CanadianOrganic, Jan 1, 2015
    FYI, OP, decarbing changes the non-psychoactive THC-A into THC. So, if you want to get high, decarb. Haha
     
  6. #6 showbe345, Jan 27, 2015
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    I live in Cali
     
    Hard to decarb when you live with parents. Which is why I want to find a method of making tincture with shatter/bho without heat if I can just leave it over time to decarb naturally. I need to take a break too as my tolerance has skyrocketed. So if I let it naturally decarb in the alcohol, I will also be basically taking a t break.
     
    The longer I take a break, the lower my tolerance gets and the stronger the green dragon tincture gets right? I was thinking of using 3-4 grams of BHO and mixing it with like 3-4 shots of 151 so it will be very strong and only need like a couple drops to get medicated. Anyone have experience making green dragon tincture without heat and using bho?
     
  7. #7 Jimmy Carter, Jan 27, 2015
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    tincture doesnt get stronger just because you take a break :p
     
    easy fix. Decarb on a griddle in front of your window with a fan exhausting the air, you dont smell anything. I've decarb'd on a griddle before and I put a glass dish over it to radiate the heat better to sort of act like an oven.
     
  8. #8 showbe345, Jan 28, 2015
     
    I wouldnt really consider this tincture I guess. Its Green Dragon but just more concentrated. Instead of doing a shot you would just need a couple drops at most is what I am hoping for.

    I have read other threads of people making this and theyll either reduce the alcohol down with heat or just leave buds to soak the alcohol with decarbing or just letting it naturally decarb in the alcohol over time.

    Taking a break to lower my tolerance and letting the wax soak in the alcohol would be like killing 2 birds with 1 stone. The longer I wait for the wax to mix/soak into the alcohol the lower my tolerance will get from abstaining from smoking. People make green dragon with buds and soak it in alcohol for like 30-90 days, but with wax you wont need to strain it out since it will just dissolve in alcohol making it a much cleaner process.

    I just need to get really good wax/shatter that is like crystal clear that isnt anywhere near close to turning into budder so it wont leave behind chunks. I assume people who mix wax/shatter/budder with alcohol get chunks because they probably use budder or low quality wax/bho.
     
  9. #9 Jimmy Carter, Jan 28, 2015
    decarb it first. I dont think just letting it sit in the alcohol will do much in a short time. just a short, lower temp decarb should be all thats needed, like 180f for 15-20 minutes
     
  10. #10 DabsOnTheMountain, Feb 2, 2015
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    Jimmy is right, you have to decarb it. It won't smell too much, relax. Just wait until mommy and daddy go to bed for the night, and pop it in the oven. A couple months back I put some reclaim into some everclear. It didn't really dissolve. It sat for a day on the counter in my favorite shotglass until i decided it would take a week to dissolve and just took the shot anyway. Nothing happened. I just got reclaim stuck in my teeth. You can't get the shaking and agitation needed in a glass to dissolve it. You'd need a couple grams in an entire bottle of everclear shaken over months. It's not worth it. It dosn't sound like you have a bunch to experiment with. If you must eat it for some reason, cook it into some oil or peanut butter. If it's decent wax though just dab it. I won't cook with oils anymore. Reclaim is a different story though. And if you have wax then you get reclaim from dabbing. So dab! You can enjoy your oil twice.
     
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  11. #11 Selsharesthan, Jul 29, 2021
    Most concentrates are already decarbed during the extraction process, especially if they're derived through distillation as the name generally implies. All you have to do to test if your concentrate is decarbed is take a few drops of 95% Everclear and mix it with a dose of your concentrate. Once the concentrate has dissolved just put all of it under your tongue and hold it there as long as possible. If you don't get high it absolutely needs to be decarbed. Look up a video for double boiling chocolate. You can do it on your stove top with a couple of pots and a thermometer, or just put all of your concentrate in a Pyrex bottle (open of course) and sit it directly into the pot of water for 30-40 minutes. Presto. Smoke free decarbing. There may be a bit of a smell, but if your concentrate is super pure then it won't be anything a scented candle can't fix. Oh, and ABSOLUTELY DON'T do this with a tincture that's already mixed unless you just want to turn it back into distillate.
     
  12. #12 PsychedelicSam, Jul 30, 2021
    Distillate is not "most concentrates". Only distillate and RSO is decarbed. Shatter, wax, etc all need to be decarbed. Distillate sucks in my opinion ,because it's not full spectrum, mainly THC and a few terpenes. There's more to cannabis than that. :rolleyes:
     
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