Ohio is messed up

Discussion in 'Marijuana Legalization' started by hillbilly420, Dec 20, 2014.

  1. I don't work till tomorrow

     
  2. I said lately. It's a yes or no question.
     
  3. Moving out of ohio! I knew there were dumbasses here but damn.....
     
  4. #104 Through The Trees, Nov 4, 2015
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    And it's all because of dumbass greedy stoners who don't want people to have freedoms because the law isn't exactly what they want. Way to go, could of prevented a bunch of people getting their lived ruined because they smoke but nope, dumbass stoners are just as bad as the government they complain about.
     
  5. I've got about 2-3 more years and I'm heading west. Midwest is a deadzone.
     
  6. Good call Ohio. Wait for a better bill... and for all those thinking about headed west; don't. It's terrible over here. There have been swarms of locust plauging the region, all of the rivers have been turning blood red and frogs have been falling from the sky. It is understandable if you haven't heard about this, the media and government have done a good job sweeping it under the rug, but it's bad. You will heed my warning if you are smart: don't move to the west coast.
     
  7. #107 playloud, Nov 4, 2015
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    It didn't surprise me that this failed, for several reasons.


    First of all, I find it the height of hypocritical comedy that those on the left and the right deal with and accept monopolies on a daily basis (namely, the government itself being the biggest monopolizing profiteer) and that's just fine. The merger of State and corporate powers is a matter routine today, and for the vast majority of folks, that's just fine. But bring cannabis into the equation and all of a sudden everyone feigns outrage and becomes the essence of pure libertarianism. Unbelievable. I watched the town hall debates and various press conferences with RO's Ian James and I was very unimpressed with his communication and debate skills. And that stupid mascot was a colossal mistake on his part.


    Furthermore, James gambled and lost big on the idea that if RO pushed this issue during an off-year election, that he'd somehow squeak this in because he'd attract the pot crowd to outnumber the apathy of those who don't vote in off-year elections. This was a huge mistake. I don't give a damn if they had a proposition on the ballot to give out hundred dollar bills once a month between 12 and 1pm at your local grocery store - people simply do not turn out in off-year elections. The numbers are abysmally low.


    Another reason that I think many in the pro-legalization movement really took issue with Issue 3 was over having to buy licenses from the state to cultivate. Color me paranoid, cynical, and distrustful, but I'm not about to go pay the state $50 to get my name on some registry database simply to grow plants. At least make it more a little more difficult for them to come pound your doors down. In an time and age where everyone, rightfully so, distrusts the integrity of the gov't use of information and data mining, I can't think of a more stupid proposition than to expect people are going to be eager to get on a database held by the State.


    Fact of the matter is that legalization is coming, and probably as early as next year. Legalize Ohio 2016 reports that they are in the final phase of signature gathering to get on the 2016 general election ballot. If the language of their amendment stays intact, I predict the support will be overwhelmingly positive one year from now. As it stands right now from a legal standpoint, I can think of many other states that would suck exponentially worse for one to live in than Ohio. At least the penalties in that state are incredibly minor for simple possession/cultivation. Those poor bastards in places like Florida are the ones that should really be lamenting things if this was on the plate for them and it got voted down. A friend of mine there got busted last year for 0.3g and had to endure the legal merry-go-round for 8 months. It cost him nearly $10k when it was all said & done.


    This amendment was far from perfect. Apparently the voters (and the abstainers) decided that it was so bad that they'd rather keep the status quo for the time being. I completely understand and sympathize with the old adage "don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good," but unfortunately, the good was eclipsed by the bad in this bill in the eyes of the voters and the abstainers.


    My heart goes out, however, to the medical patients who are in dire need of this right now that just got the shaft.
     
  8. I can see why you are disappointed, but "dumb ass stoners". The "dumb ass stoners" are keeping your freedom alive by not allowing your state government to legislate a monopoly.
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  9. #109 Through The Trees, Nov 4, 2015
    Last edited by a moderator: Nov 4, 2015
    Everything is a monopoly. If you cared so much you wouldn't be using the internet right now but you are. Those dumbasses keep saying they are waiting for another bill. Except their own state said they would deny any. This was 20 years of failed attempts for them. And the voting was 2-1. The only way people in ohio are getting legal weed is if the federal government steps in. Lol good luck with that.
     
  10. Through the trees, and head in the sand. LOL


    anyways, so far this amendment seems much more sensible than ResponsibleOhio. I hope it makes it to the ballot, especially since many more young people will (most likely) vote due to the presidential election.


    the tax is a bit steep, but i dont care. a sensible bill with a fair chance for everyone to produce their own & create their own business.


    https://legalizeohio2016.org/
     
  11. 65% no 35% yes.
    Blew that shit out if the water.
     
  12. Nobody has time for negative fucking people like you. Stoners are a bunch of "whining greedy entitled babies". Look at you dude, you are on a marijuana forum bitching about stoners...hmmm talk about a being a hypocrite.
     
  13. Bet they would then hammer the crap out of the guy with a plant in his back yard so basically they are creating a “legal” cartel, Ain’t America great
     

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