So I been wondering, there's apparently so many "different" people in the world and for some reason the majority of them don't get along. Racism, sexism, xenocentrism, ethnocentrism... They all exist and cause so much separation between people... People who are 99.999999 the same genetically; wtf you say? Yeah, wtf is up with that? It's weird because the majority of the world also makes marijuana seem like a bad thing, and therefore make people who smoke marijuana bad people. But really, wouldn't we, stoners, be better people? See, cause it doesn't matter that I'm brown and you're black, or that you're gay and she's straight... We all have that common ground that we share... Or common cloud haha. In my experience, people who smoke weed generally stick together to some extent, I've never really seen anyone make fun of another person who smokes weed; like a gangster who smokes weed and a nerd who smokes weed can bond over that, there's a sort of togetherness there. So how can stoners be considered bad if there's a brotherhood of sorts, when entire countries can't bond over the fact that they're all dependent on oil? Does Marijuana create a spiritual connection with one another.. There's usually that feeling between people after they light up (you know what I mean), or are we just about the same? Tell me, are we better, the same, different? Sent from my iPhone using Grasscity Forum
Weed smokers segregate just like everyone else. Some based on class, others race and some sexuality. It's only the enlightened stoner who welcomes anyone with the right vibes into their circle.
I came in intending to dispute the notion that cannabis has any one particular effect on everyone who smokes it...but then I read what you said, and I do have to say that I feel a certain affinity with other people who smoke weed...there seems to be a certain almost automatic mutual understanding, and most people I come across seem to feel that...I'm not sure if that's an actual property of the plant itself, or a product of its legality and the idea of 'counter-culture,' though.
There's as much of a bond between people who inhale marijuana as there is between people who own blue shirts, (in other words, there isn't one). IMO.
Well with that logic, there's no togetherness at all in the world. Religion plays no role in bringing people together, common movie interests won't spark up conversation, love of Xmas time creates no feeling of friendship... Cmon man, everyone is different but share common ground; weed may not be the ultimate catalyst but it does provide common ground Freedom is in the herb 🌳🌳
His point is that pretty much anything can provide common ground.. so if everything can, then it's pretty much like nothing does. I've known a lot of people who smoke weed who I'm like "yeah.. no thanks" cause I just don't really like them as a person to invite into my life. Just like kids, adults, students, politicians, athletes, Jeep owners, cops, strangers.. pretty much any human cliche, stoners come in a vast variety of personality. You find togetherness where you want to find it.. and right now it seems like that is weed. That's not a bad thing.. unless you think it's the only thing.
''Common ground'' and ''bonding'' are two different things, both I and a terrorist leader share the ''common ground'' of being a human, it doesn't mean that I'm going to ''bond'' with him over it though - my point was that weed-smoking is something trivial (IMO), like owning a blue shirt is, and therefore no meaningful relationship can be established through it..
I personally wouldn't smoke with a murderer or someone I was sketched out by but I get where you're coming from
Nice post, Kid. I think MJ reveals our connection rather than creates it. But when we get ourselves in the way, judge another, decide they are this or that, or just feel we'd rather not accept them, then we might not feel any connection at all. In my experience, even the most unlikely person can feel like a brother/sister if seen from this perspective.
Animals fight all the time. Whether it's over land, mates, ego - all animals fight. That's it. Because humans are also animals, and we may think we're above animals, but our petty emotions say otherwise. They're just more specific, thanks to advancements. Give hippos a century to deal with a limited number of water supply, and they're going to start fighting over it. You can be as altruistic as you please, but once resources become scarce, it's survival of the fittest. Anything that directs you otherwise is stupid, predatory, or hopeful. None of which help you and those you want to survive, survive.
The majority of the world doesn't view marijuana as a bad thing. That is why it is slowly becoming legal.
There's always gonna be good stoners and prejudice/bad stoners in the same sense there is good and bad people. Sent from my iPhone using Grasscity Forum
I know that feel. Check out my Grow Diary http://forum.grasscity.com/index.php?/topic/1353460-ThePuffinator's-Perpetual-Grow-LED/CFL
I feel a connection to other smokers, nothing like being able to open up about something you're passionate about.
a lot of people need someone to look down on. it used to be blacks or gays or people who live in trailer parks, whatever. it makes them feel better about themselves. really everybody does it to a certain extent, stoners are just easy targets. I think you're on the right track. people that normally wouldn't hang with each other will definately put their differences aside to burn one. most stoners think different anyway. I think we look at a bigger picture and the petty shit and details just don't bother us. jmho cbw hbb
Indifference is probably not the best word... Having read your post i got what you meant though. My thoughts... 1. Marijuana gives me a greater sense of contentment (as long as i have my black n mild and monster), so superficially i would say this makes it easier to be around others. 2.There is the sacred ritualistic nature of a few gathered to enjoy such a gift of nature which i think adds to the cohesion. 3. It increases my senses, as i think it does most people. So my brain is probably in a state of anticipating the added enjoyments (music, movie, sex/touch, food, etc). 4. It also induces various moods, or allows greater focus on the present mood. Sometimes i get into contemplative moods which leads to discussions, other times of course laughter in moods of levity etc. Which are inclusive/unifying events. 5. Which then opens me and others up to really get to know each other; hearing someones deep thoughts and views, or getting to know thier sense of humor. And i think this ties into what someone said before about it being illegal/taboo. I dont think it is the sake of being tabop, rather that it opens discussion about the absurdity of it being illegal, which often leads to other discussions of societal discontent. There becomes a unity against the divisive forces in our society. You start to question so-called authorities of all sorts, and we all know the power of unity 'against' something, it starts revolutions (not necessarily marijuana, but the unification 'against' something). On that note ill share two contrasting personal stories. One event me and two friends were sitting in my car in the parking lot of a nature preserve after enjoying some cannabis. We were listening to the great John Denver, and somehow we all began to sing along. At first in the same pitch, then wandering through the octaves and it created (what seemed to us) a beautiful harmony. It was probably one of the most unique and awesome experiences which still boldy stands out to me. We felt as one. On the flip-side, i had a friend from work who was a genuinely 'nice' and interesting person. Long story made short, we toked together and it was a very unpleasant experience, a complete buzzkill. He was a great friend sober but i would not anxiously want to toke with him again (although it may deserve another chance). Having said that, i dont know if there is any deeper explanation for the unity that we experience or not. Some sort of group consciousness or sympathetic brainwave frequencies i am not sure. If there is science behind it, i cant recall coming across it, hopefully with legalization we can get the research to answer such questions.
Excellent post ^. Can you expand a little on what it was that changed for you about the bloke you got on with sober but couldn't handle stoned?
The belief that using Cannabis somehow creates a bond between disparate people is probably true only in the sense that it makes us users feel we belong to a group....but, if you want to see disharmony within this group all one need do is look at some of the comments of one group of stoners who feel expensive art glass is "better" than acrylic ones. and the use of such a piece somehow demotes that stoner into some subclass of stonerdom....or, when the hydro heads with all their constant fiddling, adjusting, monitoring, filtering, debating the value of RO water over tap, etc meet the organic grower who just builds his/her soil and brews his tea and thats it get into their "discussions"..... That sense of unity is shattered. I suppose we are bound by a commonality but it is a thin one and that slender string is easily broken once the real divisions are revealed.