Jan 4th Update Seeds I've been checking the seeds daily, there is one that has a small white protrusion but not enough to call it a tail yet. going to give them another 24hr and if nothing new has shown I will try another batch. Tent Conditions Temp: max 78.4f min 64.4f current 70.3f RH: min 10% max 74% current 10% Res Temp: max 75.5f min 56.3f current 70.3f I'm a bit concerned about the temps rising too high, I've been leaving the tent flaps open to help with this. I am going to try adding a 140 cfm fan in the duct line to see if that helps. Seedlings Day 37 from germ. The seedling I was saving to be transplanted ended up wilted and was thrown out. Fed each seedling with 250ml of the following nute solution. 6L of RO water 5ml of CaMg+ 10ml of Liquid Karma 10ml of Pure Blend Pro Grow 2 drops of B vitamin 15ml of Aquashield 945uS @ 5.8pH DWC Plants C-99 Day 0 in DWC I took the first C-99 plant to be planted in coco and rinsed it off with ro water and transplanted it into a bucket. The bucket was filled with the following nutrient solution. 6L of RO water 14 drops pH down 6ml of Silica 8ml of CaMg+ 5ml each of Micro, Grow and Bloom 3 drops of Vitamin B supplement 15ml of Aquashield New: Depth 8cm 1150uS @ 5.7pH WW Day 21 in DWC Plant continues to do well. It is also still producing 3 nodes per internode. roots are looking good. Previous: Depth 8cm 728uS @ 5.8pH Found: Depth16.5cm 504uS @ 4.4pH Adj: New nutrients, larger bucket 8L of RO water 138uS @ 6.7pH 7ml of Silica 205uS @ 9.4pH 32 drops pH down 213uS @ 7.0pH 10ml of CaMg+ 515uS @ 5.9pH 7ml each of Micro, Grow and Bloom 4 drops B vitamins 20ml of Aquashield New: Depth 8cm 1300uS @ 5.6pH NL Day 51 from seed The plant appears to be doing ok, growth is progressing normally. I am concerned about the colour of the roots as they look tan. The roots feel firm, not slimey and smell fresh with new growth showing as tiny white hairs. I think this is possibly a result of moving to the larger bucket. and having to squeeze the roots through the small hole in the lid of the old bucket and then trough the lid of the new one. The plant doesn't seem to be affected other than the colour change to the roots. She is still eating well. Previous: Depth 8cm 1264uS @ 5.8 pH Found: Depth 12.5cm 825uS @ 7.7pH Adj: 3L of RO water diluted to 572uS 8 drops of pH down 4ml of Silica 6 drops of Ph down 606uS @ 7.5pH 7ml of CaMg+ 756uS @ 7.2pH 5ml of Micro 940uS @ 7.0pH 5ml of Bloom 1040uS @ 7.0pH 5ml of Grow 2 drops of vitamin B 30 ml of Aquashield New: Depth 8cm 1330uS @ 5.8pH Notes: I still need to take clones of the NL plant. On the to do list is add a booster fan to the tent exhaust duct, unpack the RDWC parts and sterilize them, start new seeds, brew a batch of bene tea. Thanks for viewing, Pahly
Hi G2D, I haven't used any cleaners on my NL plant. The reason I haven't is I use beneficial microbes and think that a cleaner would kill the microbes. I am thinking about giving the roots a soak in a bucket of diluted Hydrogen peroxide if the discoloration gets worse, but as long as the plant is doing ok and new root shoots are showing I'll leave it be. Glad to have you here. I'll be popping over to your thread to have a look to. Pahly
Yeah they would kill them mate, reason I asked was yeah the roots do look a bit brown but the plant itself still looks perfectly happy and healthy? I think you a suppose to flush dwc every now and then regardless but you'd have to double check that.
Jan 7th Tent Conditions Lights 18/6 Temp: Max 75.2f Min 63.6f Current 73.0f RH Min 10% Max 74% Current 32% Res Temp: Max 75.2f Min 51.2f Current 75.0f Coco Plants (formely seedlings) Day 40 from germ These plants have been left alone no water or nutes has been given, they seem to be doing well. DWC Plants C-99 Day 3 in DWC This plant seems slow to respond to the DWC bucket, this could be because of the high temps it has been subjected to. Hopefully it is busy growing roots and will take off soon. In the past it has taken between 5 to 7 days to see roots hit the water. Previous: Depth 8cm 1150uS @ 5.7pH Found: Depth 8cm 1141uS @ 7.7pH Adj: pH down New: Depth 8cm 1154uS @ 5.7pH WW Day 24 in DWC I noticed that this plant seems to have either a deficiency or is sensitive to pH changes or is being overferted, not sure what it is if I was to guess at a deficiency I would think magnesium as it is appearing on the older leaves first and new growth appears unaffected. I'm guessing this is probably caused by the high pH I found. it will get a fresh batch of nutes in a couple of days. Previous: Depth 8cm 1330uS @ 5.8pH Found: Depth 10cm 1069uS @ 7.6pH Adj: 1.25L of RO 7 drops Silica 7 drops pH down 10 drops CaMg+ New: Depth 8cm 1145uS @ 5.8pH NL Day 54 from seed The tan tint on the roots appears to be fading and there are new shoots appearing. the overall health of the plant seems good, noticed a slight burn at the very tips of some of the older leaves. I'm thinking this is a sign I should back off the nutes a bit. Previous: Depth 8cm 1330uS @ 5.8pH Found: Depth 13cm 1036uS @ 7.7pH Adj: 3.5L of RO Water (diluted to 708uS) 6ml of CaMg+ 849uS @ 7.2pH 4ml of Micro, Grow, Bloom pH down 3 drops of Vitamin B 20ml of Aquashield New: Depth 8cm 1363uS @ 5.8pH Notes I took 7 cuttings off of the NL plant, I cut branches that were at least 3in in length and had 3 nodes. I immediately placed them in a measuring cup of RO water. Next I trimmed off excess leaves and placed the cutting into a glass baking pan filled with water and made a 45 degree cut under the water and then immediately into rooting hormone. From there I put the cuts into neoprene inserts and placed those into an aero style cloner. The cloner has 2 gals of ro water with 8 drops of Pure Blend Pro Grow, a small amount of pH down and 20 ml of Aquashield. I placed the cloner under a CFL wich is 18inches above the cloner. Now I'll wait and see what happens. I have been cleaning my RDWC system from a previous setup and am slowly getting the parts arranged and set out in the configuration that I think will work. The larger res and having it external to the tent will allow 24 hour access to the nutes and allow me to control root zone temps much better as I can float frozen 2L bottles in it. The next task that I am thinking about is getting a veg area set up as I hope to start flowering as soon as the NL clones are rooted. I also still need to install the booster fan into the duct work but am waiting till I can get a reducer as my fan is 4in and ducting is 5in. Thanks for viewing, Pahly
Thanks G2D, I'm thinking that the plants may each get a dunk into some pH'ed RO water with diluted Hydrogen peroxide for a couple of hours, as a kind of flush, then give them fresh nutes. That is going to take me a bit of time, If I have my RDWC set up soon I will do that before placing them into it. Pahly
Pahly, your description of how you took your cuttings and started your clones is spot on; good job! The hardest part now is waiting for the bottom of the stems to form an almost whitish bump which means roots are about to pop out. It almost looks like a giant zit is about to pop! In my bubble clone--which is VERY similar in principle/method to your aerponic cloner--it took about 10 - 14 days before I started noticing swelling/roots, but it has taken even longer at times. NL is a great strain. I grew it under a high power florescent once as an experiment and it produced much more than expected. In by straight DWC grows, the roots often began to turn brown towards the middle/end of the grow. I don't know why, but that was my experience. You will LOVE the 24/7 access and convenience of the RDWC/res. Not only is the access nice, but the extra water in your res means your plants will be more stable for longer periods of time. It's ALL good when you have a res -TPM
Hi PurpleMonkey, Clones are looking good no wilting or yellowing and no further white fuzzy stuff either. The stems have not changed yet sot patiently waiting for the white pimples to show. They are even producing new leaf sets. I'm keeping them on an 18/6 light cycle. I'm hoping they pop soon so I can switch to flowering in the tent. Working on setting up a veg area next. I'll have some updates tonight and will include a pic of the cuttings. I've been busy with work and haven't had much time to post. Pahly
Catch up time Jan 10th Coco Plants All coco plants were fed 250ml each of 798uS @ 5.7pH . Jan 12th Tent Conditions Lights 18/6 Temp: N/A RH N/A Res Temp: N/A Coco Plants Plants are doing well and seemed to like the feeding. DWC Plants C-99 Day 8 in DWC Plant has roots into the water and is doing well WW Day 29 in DWC The WW has a very different structure from the NL it has less branching and a very thick stalk. I also noticed that it has grown into two tops without me doing anything to it. not sure if it will continue to grow in a polyploidy pattern or not. it is catching up to the NL in height. I find this plant intriguing as it doesn't seem to grow in the normal Christmas tree shape, more straight up and down. The necrosis has stopped and new growth appears good. Previous: Depth 8cm 1145uS @ 5.8pH Found: Depth 14.5cm 967uS @ 6.3pH Adj: New nutes and RDWC NL Day 59 from seed The plant seems unphased by the removal of branches for cuttings. NL continues to chug along still producing 9 fingered leaves. Branches are spreading out and she is getting wider as well as taller. She follows the classic Christmas tree shape. Previous: Depth 8cm 1363uS @ 5.8pH Found: Depth 17.5cm 1455uS @ 6.5pH Adj: New nutes and RDWC Set up a 2 bucket recirculating system with a res. The buckets are fed at the bottom from a 1/2inch line and overflow out the top through a 1inch return back to the res. The system holds 15 gals or 60L when full the depth of water in the Res is 24cm deep. I am using a 290 gph pump to circulate and I have turned it to it's lowest setting. Starting: 48L of RO water 240uS @ 7.0pH Added: 50ml of Silica 10ml of pH down 265uS @ 9.0pH 50ml of CaMg+ 528uS @ 6.0pH 50ml of Micro 908uS @ 6.0pH 50ml of Grow 1238uS @ 6.0pH 50ml of Bloom 1400uS @ 5.9pH 8L of RO 2ml of pH down 4L of RO 4ml of pH down 75ml of Aquashield 30 drops of B Vitamin supplement New: Depth 24cm 1164uS @ 5.8pH Placed the NL and WW plants into the system. Notes I'm thinking I will have to abandon my plan of a staggered harvest. Originally I was thinking of running 4 plants in the tent separated by 2 weeks and harvesting every 2 weeks. With the size of the RDWC system I can only fit 2 buckets into the tent. I am thinking I will flower the NL as soon as possible and then place the rest of the plants in a separate vegging area. The WW will likely be flower a couple of weeks later.as soon as I have taken cuttings and determined it's sex. Luckily the NL is a female based on preflowers. Pahly
Jan 14th RDWC Previous: Depth 24cm 1164uS @ 5.8pH Found: Depth 22.5cm 1124uS @ 7.5pH Adj: 25ml of pH down New: Depth 22.5cm 1158uS @ 5.7pH Not much to report. all plants are looking ok. Pahly
Jan 15th Tent Conditions Lights 18/6 Temp: Max 73.7f Min 63.3f Current 67.2f RH Min 10% Max74% Current 42% (for some reason the reset wasn't reseting the RH value, it reset this time so I will have to keep an eye on it when I reset the values for the tent.) Res Temp: Max 67.8f Min 65.8f Current 67.2f Coco Plants Not much change in the past few days, they are growing steadily. The plants haven't needed any water or food yet. C-99 Day 11i in DWC Plant is growing steadily. Not much to report. RDWC Previous: Depth 22.5cm 1158uS @ 5.7pH Found: Depth 20.5cm 1391uS @ 6.5pH ( I suspect the ppm number is inaccurate for some unknown reason, perhaps the batteries are getting low in the tester or there was contaminants in the measuring cup I use to sample the Res.) Adj: 8L of RO 30ml of pH down New: Depth 24.5cm 1056uS @ 5.8pH NL Day 62 from seed WW Day 32 in DWC Cuttings The NL cuttings were taken on Jan 7th, they are doing well and today I spotted what appears to be roots, I tried to take a picture of them but unfortunately my camera ran out of battery power as I was attempting to get a better pic of what looks like roots. There was a small amount of white fuzzy growth that showed up on the leaves the first day they were in the cloner, but I think that was due to having submerged them to make the cut. It hasn't progressed. Notes New projects to work on, setting up a veg area, brewing bennie tea. I think the coco plants will need some food and water tomorrow as well. Well that's it for now. Hope everyone is doing well. Pahly
Garden looks sweet mate. Two rooms is bare min to run a perpetual setup obviously but I think it will be even easier with a small 3rd mother/clone room. I've tried to get around it but it should just make things run so much smoother and allow more for setbacks and room to veg bigger plants. That NL is ready to go too
Thanks TPM I had a quick look this morning and there are roots starting to form. I picked up some batteries for my camera so I'll take some pictures later today.
Here is a quick update of the cuttings. I took these pics yesterday so it will be interesting to see the difference a day makes. I had one cutting that didn't make it, I suspect I broke the stem. as it was folded over when I checked on it. 100% otherwise. Pahly
Jan 17th Tent Conditions N/A Coco plants All coco plants were flushed with plain un ph'ed water, they will be fed tomorrow. C-99 Plant is doing ok no stats to report, it will be checked and adjusted tomorrow. RDWC Plants are looking good, WW is outgrowing the NL Previous: Depth 24.5cm 1056uS @ 5.8pH Found: Depth 22.5cm 1045uS @ 6.2pH Adj: 4L of RO water 16ml of pH down New: Depth 24.0cm 1001uS @ 5.8pH WW Day 34 in DWC NL Day 64 from seed Notes Still working on setting up a veg area. Cuttings now have the start of roots. The NL is going to be hard to control with the height I have to work with, I'd really like to let it grow natural as I haven't ever had a plant that wasn't trained in some way. I'm hoping she only doubles in height during the stretch. Pahly
<sup>Jan 18th</sup> <sup>RDWC</sup> <sup>Previous: Depth 24.0cm 1001uS @ 5.8pH</sup> <sup>Found: Depth 22..5cm 978uS @ 6.1pH</sup> <sup>No Adjustments made.</sup> <sup> </sup> <sup>Jan 19th</sup> <sup>Tent Conditions</sup> <sup>Lights 18/6</sup> <sup>Temp: Max 73.5f Min 63.1f Current 67.2f</sup> <sup>RH Min 27% Max57% Current 36%</sup> <sup>Res Temp: Max 67.2 f Min 64.4f Current 66.3f</sup> <sup>Coco Plants</sup> <sup>Decided to let them ride, plants are doing well and growing steadily.</sup> <sup> </sup> <sup>C-99 Day 15 in DWC</sup> <sup>Plant is doing ok. It is stretching due to being on the outside of the tent door on the fringe of the light, there is no room in the tent as the WW and NL have completely taken over I really need to get the veg area set up. I decided to let it ride till tomorrow and mixed a new batch of nutes for it I left them sit overnight to stabilize the pH before putting it into the new mix tomorrow.</sup> <sup>New Nutes</sup> <sup>Starting 6L of RO Depth 8cm 155uS at 6.8pH</sup> <sup>Added: 7ml of Silica 201uS @ 9.9pH</sup> <sup> 30 drops of pH down 214uS @ 7.0pH</sup> <sup> 7ml of Micro 270uS @ 7.3pH</sup> <sup> 7ml of Macro A 470uS @ 6.6pH</sup> <sup> 7ml of Macro B 862uS @ 6.5pH</sup> <sup> 36 drops of pH down 870uS @ 5.7pH</sup> <sup>I'm hoping to use up what I have left of an old line of nutes, and this will be the test plant to see if they are still good or will have to be thrown out, I'll post the stats tomorrow when I change it into the new solution.</sup> <sup> </sup> <sup>RDWC</sup> <sup>Plants are really liking the system, the WW is growing at least an inch a day It will be removed to the veg area as soon as I can get it set up. once that is done I'm flipping to flower. There was a slight increase in ppm, I believe this is because my timer failed to turn on and the plants were in the dark most of the day, they drank but didn't eat. The timer has been replaced.</sup> <sup>Previous: Depth 24.0cm 1001uS @ 5.8pH</sup> <sup>Found: Depth 20.0cm 1024uS @ 6.0pH </sup> <sup>Adj: 8L of RO water (diluted res to depth 24cm 855uS @ 6.1pH)</sup> <sup> 10ml of pH down</sup> <sup> 13ml of Silica</sup> <sup> 13ml of CaMg+</sup> <sup> 13ml of Micro</sup> <sup> 13ml of Grow</sup> <sup> 13ml of Bloom</sup> <sup>New: Depth 24cm 1080uS @ 5.6pH</sup> <sup>WW Day 36 in DWC</sup> <sup> </sup> <sup>NL Day 66 from seed</sup> <sup> </sup> <sup>Cuttings/Clones</sup> <sup>Clones are doing well and roots are forming, won't be long now till I transplant them. two will be going dwc and the others will be going into coco.</sup> <sup> </sup> <sup>Notes</sup> <sup>Started a new brew of Bene tea, used molasses for food this time, hopefully it will work out and I can stretch my bennies out and save some cash. </sup> <sup>That's all for now,</sup> <sup>Pahly </sup>